Dear Straights Timed,
If you think that your conscience could be bought over by a dinner, then I
have nothing to say! Nobody wants your conscience and it is only recently
when I read your many postings, I realize that here is a man with so much
grievances and anger but at least he fought fiercely (too fiercely most of
the time) for his community. I want your grievances and anger, not your
conscience. Why? You may be right afterall, I may not understand my fellow
Singaporeans of different races due to my past training. I would better
start to learn more about it.
I could offer nothing. Not wealth, for I don't even have much like you, nor
fame, for I have none also. I have been walking around in areas filled with
poverty, before I move on to HK. It makes me think, is there really some
correlations between race and wealth? I have seen wealthy Indians and
Malays, I have seen those in poverty. Unless we get hold on the raw census
data which is so heavily guarded by PAP govt, we may never know. But
perception is something too powerful and destructive.
There is nothing to curse, for karma takes its own course. I am merely
reminding you from time to time. And I am not afraid of your scrutinising.
If you think you could bring me down that easily, think again. I have been
here long enough. I talk straight, unlike you. If it is not for me, you
would still be using all sorts of stupid nicks! I gave you the identity that
you seriously need, unknowing to you. I have never been afraid of your fiery
words, for such, only hurt yourself, not me.
As for racial issues, just look at all your writings! You attack people
because they are Chinese! Of course, you do show your sympathy towards those
disadvantaged or in distress. This is the only good thing I find in you.
However, if there is such an award here "Most Racist Award", nobody else but
you are deserving of it! You think you have perfect skills in
"genearlization" of everything under the sun, but it just shows how
unreasonable you can be.
I do not mind you bringing up "Chinese racism", but it must be reasonable.
And it doesn't give you the god damn right of attacking Chinese in such a
racist way. Most of the time, I dissect the problems with you and it took
pains for me to tell you that whether it is just presumptious generalization
of isolate cases or otherwise. If the future leaders of Singapore are mad
men who would just jump the gun and make all sorts of accusations
(especially racist ones) without proper dissection, you should worry more
And it is not me that deliberately "tarnish" you as racist; nobody could
define your own self, but you alone. Just look at your writings! I have told
you many times that if you behave like that, whatever "truth" and "concerns"
you brought up would be washed away by your own racist out front. If you are
serious in discussion, do it in proper. There is no need to bring in
personal hatred into it. If you are only interested in ranting and rumbling
away, fine. Talk too much won't bring results in solving your community's
problems, especially in your fiery ways. Imagine if I were to be like you,
ranting away mindlessly, putting in so many loose racial remarks, what will
happen to me? You should know with your experience.
I can only fool somebody some time, or even all people some time, but I
cannot possibly fool all the people all the time. For all the one decade or
so of participation in newsgroup discussions, many friends and even my
opponents, should know me well. As I look back, I am pretty consistent in
what I write and say here; even though I did grow up in the process in many
ways. I have nothing to fear or hide. Some concerned friends ask me whether
I am afraid of having all my past postings being archived and used against
me, I could only smile. I would appreciate people of making archives of my
postings because I have never done it myself. And I would ask them to give
me the whole archive as birthday presents! ;) If you want to look at a
person, you look at him as a whole. Taking things out of context and attack
him is the most despicable ways of dealings. I would challenge them to
provide the FULL archive for everybody to read. It might help me actually,
for people to understand me more in the process!
If you want to sleep with the "known devil", fine. GO ahead, but please,
stop complaining! You are complaining against your own choice? This is
In conclusion, I invited you and ardeedee to tea or dinner, not because I
want to "buy your conscience". I just want to learn more about your anger
and grievances which I do not want you to spit it all out here in open forum
like this. This is bad for you. If you decline the offer, fine and there is
no need to have spikes in your answers.
Goh Meng Seng
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
so what is the price for my conscience ?...a lavish dinner !....fool ,I had
been courted numerous times for my silence even by your uncle
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
right hand man to the Minister who tempted me with wealth.....as I always
had repeated umpteen times here before and also will now that I deal with
issues here not with personalities...I don't deal with people or individuals
I deal with issues and what's your problem that you cannot discuss here
and I do find MADCOW a fake and a phoney and lacks character....I saw
Mr.Heng of Nichol tragedy as a human and fought for him ;MADCOW saw him as a
chinese only than fought for him ....that's our differences...MADCOW had
always cursed that I would suffer by my Karma retribution....let's see who
will be put on the stand now and scrtutinised and quried by the public....it
may even bring his whole party down....
MADCOW had belittled and trivilised the plight of minorities by painting
everyone who raises the issue of chinese racism in singapore by painting and
tarnishing them as racists....its a sad day for Singapore if these are our
future leaders !
well let's see who this Karma thingy will finally comes to haunt ,besides I
always had maintained that its better a knowm devil (PAP) than an unknown
angel (MADCOW) !....we know PAP for what they have done but we don't know
MADCOW for what lurks in his mind !!!