Good News! -- Jesus Christ Went To The Cross So You Can Go To Heaven

Lets compare Osama and Mohammed.
Osama is married, he betrayed many of his Muslims brothers by terrorist
attack.
He is still alive and very much wanted to be captured dead or alive by Bush.
He failed to unite his Muslims brothers.

Although Osama is married, religiously, he can have four wives with him in
the Afghanistan mountains.
He has many terrorist followers.
He has Al Qaeda which Jesus and Mohammed had not.
http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/trainingmanual.htm
He preaches terrorism.
So, you can see among the three who is the winner?

Post by kjkjdjjn
Now, lets compare Mohamed with Jesus.
Jesus never get married,
one of his follower betrayed him
and he die on the cross...the most painfull way of dying.
Also Jesus fails to unite Jews people.
Mohamed married with many wifes,
one of his most lovely wife is only 9 year olds at the time of married.
Mohamed success unite Arab people
He has many follower, non of his follower betray him
He was rise to heaven in the most glorious way.
So, you can see who is the winner.
Although many Islamic country are very rich in natural resource,
but their people are very poor.

Pete Hine

2005-02-07 14:28:35 UTC

Jesus is dead.
Mohammed is dead.
Osama is alive, but has to hide in a cave or whatever.
I'm alive and free as a bird; or something like it.
Who is the winner?

Post by Ventura
Lets compare Osama and Mohammed.
Osama is married, he betrayed many of his Muslims brothers by terrorist
attack.
He is still alive and very much wanted to be captured dead or alive by Bush.
He failed to unite his Muslims brothers.
Although Osama is married, religiously, he can have four wives with him in
the Afghanistan mountains.
He has many terrorist followers.
He has Al Qaeda which Jesus and Mohammed had not.
http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/trainingmanual.htm
He preaches terrorism.
So, you can see among the three who is the winner?

Robert Ho

2005-02-07 15:20:24 UTC

life still continues.

LOL

Post by Pete Hine
Jesus is dead.
Mohammed is dead.
Osama is alive, but has to hide in a cave or whatever.
I'm alive and free as a bird; or something like it.
Who is the winner?

T-Junction

2005-02-07 15:23:32 UTC

U r all wrong!
I am the winner.
Because I do nothing.
So if you wanna be a winner, follow in my footsteps.
Do nothing, it's so easy. It's the easiest religion in the world.
Follow me and I promise you that you will certainly go to that wonderful
illusory place we all call heaven.

Post by Pete Hine
Jesus is dead.
Mohammed is dead.
Osama is alive, but has to hide in a cave or whatever.
I'm alive and free as a bird; or something like it.
Who is the winner?

married.

Post by kjkjdjjn
Mohamed success unite Arab people
He has many follower, non of his follower betray him
He was rise to heaven in the most glorious way.
So, you can see who is the winner.
Although many Islamic country are very rich in natural resource,
but their people are very poor.

pap_smeared

2005-02-12 08:23:45 UTC

How great it would be if we can choose our government like we choose
our religion. We still have to pay money to our government even if we
do not like their ways of doing things. For religion, we can choose
not to donate.

Post by T-Junction
U r all wrong!
I am the winner.
Because I do nothing.
So if you wanna be a winner, follow in my footsteps.
Do nothing, it's so easy. It's the easiest religion in the world.
Follow me and I promise you that you will certainly go to that wonderful
illusory place we all call heaven.

Post by Pete Hine
Jesus is dead.
Mohammed is dead.
Osama is alive, but has to hide in a cave or whatever.
I'm alive and free as a bird; or something like it.
Who is the winner?

Post by Ventura
the Afghanistan mountains.
He has many terrorist followers.
He has Al Qaeda which Jesus and Mohammed had not.
http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/trainingmanual.htm
He preaches terrorism.
So, you can see among the three who is the winner?

married.

Animation
5. http://www.carm.org/cults/cultlist.htm << Beware Of Cults
6. http://www.equip.org/free/DH198.htm << About Hell
7. http://www.powertochange.com/questions/qna2.html << Is Jesus God?

ardeedee

2005-02-12 10:34:44 UTC

And you nevr donate to religious charities - but why donate to political
parties - they are richer than you a thouasnd times?

Post by pap_smeared
How great it would be if we can choose our government like we choose
our religion. We still have to pay money to our government even if we
do not like their ways of doing things. For religion, we can choose
not to donate.

Post by Pete Hine
Jesus is dead.
Mohammed is dead.
Osama is alive, but has to hide in a cave or whatever.
I'm alive and free as a bird; or something like it.
Who is the winner?

Post by Ventura
Lets compare Osama and Mohammed.
Osama is married, he betrayed many of his Muslims brothers by terrorist
attack.
He is still alive and very much wanted to be captured dead or alive

Post by Ventura
Bush.
He failed to unite his Muslims brothers.
Although Osama is married, religiously, he can have four wives with him

married.

http://www.gieson.com/Library/projects/animations/walk/index.html

Animation
5. http://www.carm.org/cults/cultlist.htm << Beware Of Cults
6. http://www.equip.org/free/DH198.htm << About Hell
7. http://www.powertochange.com/questions/qna2.html << Is Jesus God?

lobert lo

2005-02-12 13:12:42 UTC

why religious charities, there are many other charities like
KDF need your donation.

Post by ardeedee
And you nevr donate to religious charities - but why donate to political
parties - they are richer than you a thouasnd times?

Post by Pete Hine
Jesus is dead.
Mohammed is dead.
Osama is alive, but has to hide in a cave or whatever.
I'm alive and free as a bird; or something like it.
Who is the winner?

Post by Ventura
Lets compare Osama and Mohammed.
Osama is married, he betrayed many of his Muslims brothers by

terrorist

Post by Ventura
attack.
He is still alive and very much wanted to be captured dead or alive

Post by Ventura
Bush.
He failed to unite his Muslims brothers.
Although Osama is married, religiously, he can have four wives with

him

married.

The

Christ
4.

http://www.gieson.com/Library/projects/animations/walk/index.html

Animation
5. http://www.carm.org/cults/cultlist.htm << Beware Of Cults
6. http://www.equip.org/free/DH198.htm << About Hell
7. http://www.powertochange.com/questions/qna2.html << Is Jesus

God?

Tegenpool

2005-02-13 05:16:15 UTC

Post by lobert lo
why religious charities, there are many other charities like
KDF need your donation.

Post by ardeedee
And you nevr donate to religious charities - but why donate to political
parties - they are richer than you a thouasnd times?

Post by Pete Hine
Jesus is dead.
Mohammed is dead.
Osama is alive, but has to hide in a cave or whatever.
I'm alive and free as a bird; or something like it.
Who is the winner?

Post by Ventura
Lets compare Osama and Mohammed.
Osama is married, he betrayed many of his Muslims brothers by

terrorist

Post by Ventura
attack.
He is still alive and very much wanted to be captured dead or alive

Post by Ventura
Bush.
He failed to unite his Muslims brothers.
Although Osama is married, religiously, he can have four wives with

him

married.

The

Christ
4.

http://www.gieson.com/Library/projects/animations/walk/index.html

Animation
5. http://www.carm.org/cults/cultlist.htm << Beware Of Cults
6. http://www.equip.org/free/DH198.htm << About Hell
7. http://www.powertochange.com/questions/qna2.html << Is Jesus

God?

Jesus was a Palestine!

intruder

2005-02-13 08:36:06 UTC

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 06:16:15 +0100, Tegenpool

Post by Tegenpool

Post by lobert lo
why religious charities, there are many other charities like
KDF need your donation.

Post by ardeedee
And you nevr donate to religious charities - but why donate to political
parties - they are richer than you a thouasnd times?

Post by Pete Hine
Jesus is dead.
Mohammed is dead.
Osama is alive, but has to hide in a cave or whatever.
I'm alive and free as a bird; or something like it.
Who is the winner?

Post by Ventura
Lets compare Osama and Mohammed.
Osama is married, he betrayed many of his Muslims brothers by

terrorist

Post by Ventura
attack.
He is still alive and very much wanted to be captured dead or alive

Post by Ventura
Bush.
He failed to unite his Muslims brothers.
Although Osama is married, religiously, he can have four wives with

him

married.

The

Christ
4.

http://www.gieson.com/Library/projects/animations/walk/index.html

Animation
5. http://www.carm.org/cults/cultlist.htm << Beware Of Cults
6. http://www.equip.org/free/DH198.htm << About Hell
7. http://www.powertochange.com/questions/qna2.html << Is Jesus

God?

Jesus was a Palestine!

Nee toch, geen geitenneuker.

jay

2005-02-13 21:57:09 UTC

Post by intruder

Post by Tegenpool
Jesus was a Palestine!

Nee toch, geen geitenneuker.

are you constipated monkey?

intruder

2005-02-14 22:10:25 UTC

Post by jay

Post by intruder

Post by Tegenpool
Jesus was a Palestine!

Nee toch, geen geitenneuker.

are you constipated monkey?

No you the stiff faker and fantaziser! LOL
So what was the name of the Italian Minister you had lunch with,
faker?

c***@yahoo.com.sg

2005-02-13 06:20:57 UTC

I don't really trust organisation such as NKF and the likes. They are
all indirectly related to the government. So indirectly people donating
to the such organisations donate to the government and their
mishandling of our hard earned money. And we really have no idea how
our money is being spent.

And why religious charitables? Well lets put it this way, compared it
to the government run organisation the money we gives to religious
organisations are better reach out to the beneficiaries, due to the
fact that they all have some sort of self-righteous obligation
ingrained into their religious teachings. But I have to add, not all
religious organisations are that self-righteous though, we all just
have to open our eyes before opening up our wallet. Basicallly not only
religious charitables, other small organisations is also the best.

For me, when doing charitable works I always like to stretch my dollar
to the fullest and go direct to the point. I do not like the idea of
donating money to organisation and find that only part of my money goes
to the real beneficiaries, while the other part goes to the logistical
part such as printing propaganda T-shirts and banners. I believe that
is the obligation of the government.

This is what I usually does. Whenever times allow I would call up to
any charitable organisations(be it religious or not) to tell them about
my plan. The most important part is to ask from them the number of head
counts of the beneficiaries. This is important for fairness and to
prevent dispute later on. Then I would drive to the nearest supermarket
and buy as many cartons of biscuits as I can possibly put in my trunk.
Just ask from the sales staffs, they will gladly help you to bring it
out from the back of the store. When I reach there I will go to the
admin office, talk to the person in charge, then head to their premise
before handing out the biscuits out from the cartons to them, one by
one. Make sure they all personally get it from you. And when I have
leftovers I would give all to the working staffs and thanking them for
their great work. And still if I have some more leftovers, I would keep
it for my consumption later on. You see this it the best way to get my
objective across. We all can make a difference.

Printing charitable propaganda T-shirts and banners is the job of the
government.

Post by lobert lo
why religious charities, there are many other charities like
KDF need your donation.

Post by ardeedee
And you nevr donate to religious charities - but why donate to political
parties - they are richer than you a thouasnd times?

Post by Pete Hine
Jesus is dead.
Mohammed is dead.
Osama is alive, but has to hide in a cave or whatever.
I'm alive and free as a bird; or something like it.
Who is the winner?

Post by Ventura
Lets compare Osama and Mohammed.
Osama is married, he betrayed many of his Muslims brothers by

terrorist

Post by Ventura
attack.
He is still alive and very much wanted to be captured dead or alive

Post by Ventura
Bush.
He failed to unite his Muslims brothers.
Although Osama is married, religiously, he can have four wives with

him

married.

resource,

Post by kjkjdjjn
but their people are very poor.

The

Christ
4.

http://www.gieson.com/Library/projects/animations/walk/index.html

Animation
5. http://www.carm.org/cults/cultlist.htm << Beware Of Cults
6. http://www.equip.org/free/DH198.htm << About Hell
7. http://www.powertochange.com/questions/qna2.html << Is Jesus

God?

Vernon North

2005-02-12 17:22:51 UTC

Post by pap_smeared
How great it would be if we can choose our government like we choose
our religion.

I think that's what happens in the middle east. You choose a government,
and you've chosen a religion.

Verno

ardeedee

2005-02-07 16:59:54 UTC

Jesus is God - Mohamed is a prophet.

freesia

2005-02-08 01:28:10 UTC

Have you read The Da Vinci Code?
Die-hard Christian will surely hate this book.

Kerry

2005-02-08 03:17:14 UTC

WTF does Jesus claim himself as god? All lies in the faith of the
followers/believers

Post by ardeedee
Jesus is God - Mohamed is a prophet.

Ace Lim

2005-02-08 10:02:12 UTC

Hi All

Let set the scene for Jesus to understand it better:

Jews were persecuted by the Romans. Jesus sees his Jew fellowmen hung and
crucified out side the city gates since he was young. (A normal person would
have hatred for the Romans)

Now at age 33 tells the Jews to love your enemy, which he has shown towards
the Romans and Jews, which he ask to forgive them.

So Jesus is either a mad man or God.

But I have not heard of any mad man, creating miracles or willing to go
through that much of suffering. (Romans were known to make torturing an art
form).

The rest is for u to decide.

--
Ace Lim

Post by Kerry
WTF does Jesus claim himself as god? All lies in the faith of the
followers/believers

Post by ardeedee
Jesus is God - Mohamed is a prophet.

ardeedee

2005-02-08 12:17:02 UTC

Prior to this the law unto Men was that of an eye for an eye and thye bible
of the OLd testament is replete with revenge as the motive and as violence
for a means to an end.
The role of Jesus was to change this concept of human behaviour from an "eye
for an eye" to a "forgive your enemies" - it is always easy to forgive your
friends.

Post by Ace Lim
Hi All
Jews were persecuted by the Romans. Jesus sees his Jew fellowmen hung and
crucified out side the city gates since he was young. (A normal person would
have hatred for the Romans)
Now at age 33 tells the Jews to love your enemy, which he has shown towards
the Romans and Jews, which he ask to forgive them.
So Jesus is either a mad man or God.
But I have not heard of any mad man, creating miracles or willing to go
through that much of suffering. (Romans were known to make torturing an art
form).
The rest is for u to decide.
--
Ace Lim

Post by Kerry
WTF does Jesus claim himself as god? All lies in the faith of the
followers/believers

Post by ardeedee
Jesus is God - Mohamed is a prophet.

ardeedee

2005-02-08 12:13:42 UTC

Yes Jesus claims He is God and He is .

Post by Kerry
WTF does Jesus claim himself as god? All lies in the faith of the
followers/believers

Post by ardeedee
Jesus is God - Mohamed is a prophet.

Missing Link

2005-02-08 14:46:32 UTC

If LKY claims himself to be a Singaporean god, do you think his claim is
allowed? In parliament, yes. His B-carrier yes. In general no.

Post by ardeedee
Yes Jesus claims He is God and He is .

Post by Kerry
WTF does Jesus claim himself as god? All lies in the faith of the
followers/believers

Post by ardeedee
Jesus is God - Mohamed is a prophet.

ardeedee

2005-02-09 01:34:00 UTC

LKY is nearing the end and he knows he is more h7uman than anyone else - but
he must ensure his succession has a chance of maintaining the famiLee after
him.

Post by Missing Link
If LKY claims himself to be a Singaporean god, do you think his claim is
allowed? In parliament, yes. His B-carrier yes. In general no.

Post by ardeedee
Yes Jesus claims He is God and He is .

Post by Kerry
WTF does Jesus claim himself as god? All lies in the faith of the
followers/believers

Post by ardeedee
Jesus is God - Mohamed is a prophet.

2005-02-08 16:23:56 UTC

I thought Jesus never claims he is God. He is only the son of God. He is
a prophet. I think many Christians nowadays have the wrong concept
about Jesus.

Post by ardeedee
Yes Jesus claims He is God and He is .

Post by Kerry
WTF does Jesus claim himself as god? All lies in the faith of the
followers/believers

Post by ardeedee
Jesus is God - Mohamed is a prophet.

mypcbase

2005-02-09 06:23:26 UTC

Post by Ou
I thought Jesus never claims he is God. He is only the son of God. He is
a prophet. I think many Christians nowadays have the wrong concept
about Jesus.

There is always who want to tell you that jesus is another
prophet. Or that he is just a son of God.

To find out who Jesus is, will you ask a Christian, or
trust a non-Christian to reveal that to you?

the only way to find out is ask God to lead you, to show you.
Or go and find out for yourself.
Many people have done that.

Even people in Papua New Guinea, remote area can accept that.
There is no reason why no one couldn't if he is honest to himself.
That is all what it takes.

AntiChrist will always shortchange who Jesus is.
The AntiChrist comes in many names, and too bad, you
already fall into their
scheme. Some AntiChrist even call themselves prophet.
You think these people are truly prophet from God? Really?
Will you bet your life on it?
The answers are revealed in the Bible.

the truth remains : Jesus is God and will always be.
Even if you find it hard to understand or accept.

2005-02-10 14:01:19 UTC

That is why I meant. Christian nowadays have the wrong understanding
about Jesus. What is wrong with accepting Jesus as a prophet. Is it
because if you accept Jesus as a prophet you have to accept that he is
just another human being like you and me. Please note that I am not
criticising Christianity. I just think that if you accept Jesus as a
human being, you will admire his virtues and sacrifices more.

Another matter I cannot accept some Christiana nowadays is because
whenever anyone questions anything about Christianity, they will
immediately labelled them as AntiChrist. Is this the correct way to
spread the word of God? You can never question, you must always accept
even though sometimes something doesn't make sense.

Post by mypcbase

Post by Ou
I thought Jesus never claims he is God. He is only the son of God. He is
a prophet. I think many Christians nowadays have the wrong concept
about Jesus.

There is always who want to tell you that jesus is another
prophet. Or that he is just a son of God.
To find out who Jesus is, will you ask a Christian, or
trust a non-Christian to reveal that to you?
the only way to find out is ask God to lead you, to show you.
Or go and find out for yourself.
Many people have done that.
Even people in Papua New Guinea, remote area can accept that.
There is no reason why no one couldn't if he is honest to himself.
That is all what it takes.
AntiChrist will always shortchange who Jesus is.
The AntiChrist comes in many names, and too bad, you
already fall into their
scheme. Some AntiChrist even call themselves prophet.
You think these people are truly prophet from God? Really?
Will you bet your life on it?
The answers are revealed in the Bible.
the truth remains : Jesus is God and will always be.
Even if you find it hard to understand or accept.

mypcbase

2005-02-12 01:39:35 UTC

Post by Ou
That is why I meant. Christian nowadays have the wrong understanding
about Jesus. What is wrong with accepting Jesus as a prophet. Is it

Oops! I misread what you write as "Jesus is only a prophet".
You are right. Jesus is a prophet.
You didn't write "Jesus is only a prophet".
I should have re-read what you posted before replying.
I am very sorry.

Post by Ou
Another matter I cannot accept some Christiana nowadays is because
whenever anyone questions anything about Christianity, they will
immediately labelled them as AntiChrist. Is this the correct way to
spread the word of God? You can never question, you must always accept
even though sometimes something doesn't make sense.

You got a point there.
I dont know if the Bible did mention any correct way to spread
the word of God. Maybe there is.
I have no further comments.

Again, sorry for the wrong response.
thank you.

regards
mypcbase

ardeedee

2005-02-09 01:31:45 UTC

You thought wrong - Jesus is God - the Son and the Father and the Holy Ghost
are all one and the same - a Trinity- which is not somethng most people can
understand but why try to understand God. Enough that God can re-create
himself in different ways.

Post by Ou
I thought Jesus never claims he is God. He is only the son of God. He is
a prophet. I think many Christians nowadays have the wrong concept
about Jesus.

Post by ardeedee
Yes Jesus claims He is God and He is .

Post by Kerry
WTF does Jesus claim himself as god? All lies in the faith of the
followers/believers

Post by ardeedee
Jesus is God - Mohamed is a prophet.

furry

2005-02-10 10:09:03 UTC

Post by ardeedee
You thought wrong - Jesus is God - the Son and the Father and the Holy Ghost
are all one and the same - a Trinity- which is not somethng most people can
understand but why try to understand God. Enough that God can re-create
himself in different ways.

The trinity has been expunged from most bibles. Check yours.

ardeedee

2005-02-10 10:26:10 UTC

Never been expunged - when Ch4ristians make the sign of the cross it is a
reminder of the Trinity.

Post by furry

The trinity has been expunged from most bibles. Check yours.

ardeedee

2005-02-14 08:21:38 UTC

Who has idols?

At least I don't need some kind of idol to believe in GOD!

Post by ardeedee
You thought wrong - Jesus is God - the Son and the Father and the Holy

Ghost

Post by ardeedee
are all one and the same - a Trinity- which is not somethng most people

can

Post by ardeedee
understand but why try to understand God. Enough that God can re-create
himself in different ways.

Kerry

2005-02-15 02:43:49 UTC

He! He! He!
Guest who?

Post by ardeedee
Who has idols?

Ace Lim

2005-02-14 19:13:43 UTC

An idol can be anything that u put above God. (ie hobbies, wife, kids, etc)
--
Ace Lim

At least I don't need some kind of idol to believe in GOD!

Post by ardeedee
You thought wrong - Jesus is God - the Son and the Father and the Holy

Ghost

Post by ardeedee
are all one and the same - a Trinity- which is not somethng most people

can

Post by ardeedee
understand but why try to understand God. Enough that God can re-create
himself in different ways.

Nirvana

2005-02-08 02:44:00 UTC