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This is as Chinese as a Malaysian Prime Minister is ever going to be:-)
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Peace2Peace
2003-12-23 02:16:01 UTC
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PM Abdullah's China family link
PENANG - Two Chinese from Hainan came here for a family gathering and were surprised to find that one of their cousins is now the Malaysian prime minister.

Mr Abdullah Ha Chenghui and his brother, Mr Rais Ha Chengqiang, on their first visit to Malaysia, were among 600 relatives who came on Sunday for the reunion of the descendants of Hassan Salleh, or Hah Su Chiang, the maternal grandfather of Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.

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The reunion coincided with the 78th birthday of the Prime Minister's mother, Datuk Kailan Hassan.

Mr Abdullah, 39, said when a Malaysian relative he was staying with pointed out Datuk Seri Abdullah on television as his cousin, he could hardly believe it.

Mr Abdullah wondered if he would have a chance to speak to him at the gathering.

'I was happy to be able to shake hands with the Prime Minister and when he learnt that my Muslim name is also Abdullah, he was a little surprised,' he said through an interpreter.

Mr Rais, 48, said he was happy to meet so many relatives and was surprised that one of them was the Premier.

'In China, three generations of our family did not have the chance to get a good education and we are happy to learn that we have relatives in Malaysia who hold high positions.' -- The Star/AsiaNews Network

Source: http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/asia/story/0,4386,226783,00.html?
t m z z
2003-12-23 02:29:35 UTC
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As long as you are a muslim, you can be the PM!
Post by Peace2Peace
PM Abdullah's China family link
PENANG - Two Chinese from Hainan came here for a family gathering and were
surprised to find that one of their cousins is now the Malaysian prime
minister.
Post by Peace2Peace
Mr Abdullah Ha Chenghui and his brother, Mr Rais Ha Chengqiang, on their
first visit to Malaysia, were among 600 relatives who came on Sunday for the
reunion of the descendants of Hassan Salleh, or Hah Su Chiang, the maternal
grandfather of Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
SNIP
Peace2Peace
2003-12-23 03:59:18 UTC
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Hey, really, is that so...
Thanks for the input.

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:29:35 +0800
Post by t m z z
As long as you are a muslim, you can be the PM!
Post by Peace2Peace
PM Abdullah's China family link
PENANG - Two Chinese from Hainan came here for a family gathering and were
surprised to find that one of their cousins is now the Malaysian prime
minister.
Post by Peace2Peace
Mr Abdullah Ha Chenghui and his brother, Mr Rais Ha Chengqiang, on their
first visit to Malaysia, were among 600 relatives who came on Sunday for the
reunion of the descendants of Hassan Salleh, or Hah Su Chiang, the maternal
grandfather of Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
SNIP
George Soros
2003-12-23 08:46:11 UTC
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You must also have circumcised your prick foreskin.
Post by Peace2Peace
Hey, really, is that so...
Thanks for the input.
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:29:35 +0800
Post by t m z z
As long as you are a muslim, you can be the PM!
Post by Peace2Peace
PM Abdullah's China family link
PENANG - Two Chinese from Hainan came here for a family gathering and were
surprised to find that one of their cousins is now the Malaysian prime
minister.
Post by Peace2Peace
Mr Abdullah Ha Chenghui and his brother, Mr Rais Ha Chengqiang, on their
first visit to Malaysia, were among 600 relatives who came on Sunday for the
reunion of the descendants of Hassan Salleh, or Hah Su Chiang, the maternal
grandfather of Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
SNIP
ir. hj. othman bin hj. ahmad
2003-12-23 08:59:20 UTC
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Post by Peace2Peace
Hey, really, is that so...
Thanks for the input.
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:29:35 +0800
Post by t m z z
As long as you are a muslim, you can be the PM!
Not strictly true.
Even non-muslim can be PM but since there are more than 50% muslims of
various races, a muslim has the best chance of being supported as the PM,
regardless of race. Islam is not a racist religion.
michael
2003-12-27 00:17:26 UTC
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Post by ir. hj. othman bin hj. ahmad
Post by Peace2Peace
Hey, really, is that so...
Thanks for the input.
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:29:35 +0800
Post by t m z z
As long as you are a muslim, you can be the PM!
Not strictly true.
Even non-muslim can be PM but since there are more than 50% muslims of
various races, a muslim has the best chance of being supported as the PM,
regardless of race. Islam is not a racist religion.
Your theory is correct if parliamentary constituencies are not
drawn in shapes of amoebas where MPs also represent monkeys in
the jungles.

Islam is not a racist religion but many muslims are.
Go read the federal constitution on Malay race and religion.

regards,
michael ... ***@afn.org
STRAIGHTS TIMED
2003-12-23 11:27:40 UTC
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Post by Peace2Peace
Hey, really, is that so...
Thanks for the input.
now that begets another question,
will China allows any other non
pure Han chinese to be of anything !

remember,the chinese cousin did said,
"In China, three generations of our family
did not have the chance to get a good education "

besides,when hong kong was handed over
to china there existed about 10,000 ethnic
indians who were born & bred there..these
were the remnants of the trading community
from shanghai who escaped communism...

these ethnic indians are contributing to more
than 10 % of hong kong exports...yet,china denied
them citizenship ; based solely on race !

contrast this with thousands & thousands of ethnic
chinese who found refuge in india...they were
granted indian citizenships and are engaged gainfully
in leather trade with their own chinese schools and
dailies,till today...

china & chinese are quick to shout and demand
for rights but never seems to be practising what
they themselves demand of others...sheeesh !
Post by Peace2Peace
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:29:35 +0800
Post by t m z z
As long as you are a muslim, you can be the PM!
Post by Peace2Peace
PM Abdullah's China family link
PENANG - Two Chinese from Hainan came here for a family gathering and were
surprised to find that one of their cousins is now the Malaysian prime
minister.
Post by Peace2Peace
Mr Abdullah Ha Chenghui and his brother, Mr Rais Ha Chengqiang, on their
first visit to Malaysia, were among 600 relatives who came on Sunday for the
reunion of the descendants of Hassan Salleh, or Hah Su Chiang, the maternal
grandfather of Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
SNIP
4u2c
2003-12-23 10:04:10 UTC
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Can you show me which part of China's constitution that does not allow a
muslim to be their Prime Minister or President?
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
now that begets another question,
will China allows any other non
pure Han chinese to be of anything !
remember,the chinese cousin did said,
"In China, three generations of our family
did not have the chance to get a good education "
besides,when hong kong was handed over
to china there existed about 10,000 ethnic
indians who were born & bred there..these
were the remnants of the trading community
from shanghai who escaped communism...
these ethnic indians are contributing to more
than 10 % of hong kong exports...yet,china denied
them citizenship ; based solely on race !
contrast this with thousands & thousands of ethnic
chinese who found refuge in india...they were
granted indian citizenships and are engaged gainfully
in leather trade with their own chinese schools and
dailies,till today...
china & chinese are quick to shout and demand
for rights but never seems to be practising what
they themselves demand of others...sheeesh !
STRAIGHTS TIMED
2003-12-23 12:59:58 UTC
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Post by 4u2c
Can you show me which part of China's constitution that does not allow a
muslim to be their Prime Minister or President?
now that you mentioned, i do remember Dalai Lama
also wants to know ! his country & his people and
yet on the run from China, you know why smartly pants !
Post by 4u2c
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
now that begets another question,
will China allows any other non
pure Han chinese to be of anything !
remember,the chinese cousin did said,
"In China, three generations of our family
did not have the chance to get a good education "
besides,when hong kong was handed over
to china there existed about 10,000 ethnic
indians who were born & bred there..these
were the remnants of the trading community
from shanghai who escaped communism...
these ethnic indians are contributing to more
than 10 % of hong kong exports...yet,china denied
them citizenship ; based solely on race !
contrast this with thousands & thousands of ethnic
chinese who found refuge in india...they were
granted indian citizenships and are engaged gainfully
in leather trade with their own chinese schools and
dailies,till today...
china & chinese are quick to shout and demand
for rights but never seems to be practising what
they themselves demand of others...sheeesh !
Bad boy
2003-12-23 21:32:42 UTC
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Racist bastard
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ck_in_sf1
2003-12-23 20:37:05 UTC
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Post by 4u2c
Can you show me which part of China's constitution that does not allow a
muslim to be their Prime Minister or President?
Actually the entire Constitution of China would forbid a person
practicing a religion to be at the helm. Do not forget that China is a
Communist country and religion is banned in all official matters.

CKSF
Bad boy
2003-12-23 21:36:43 UTC
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Liar
--
Wally
2003-12-24 11:39:39 UTC
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No, he is not a liar and why did you snip what he wrote?
Post by ck_in_sf1
Actually the entire Constitution of China would forbid a person
practicing a religion to be at the helm. Do not forget that China is a
Communist country and religion is banned in all official matters."
I know for a fact that the oath you take to become a Communist Party member
requires you to become an apostate and you need to be a Party member before
you get a government job. If any informers know you engage in any religious
activity, you're in deep shit. That goes for Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism
and all other religions as well btw. A dictatorship of the proletariat means
that good or bad, you die at the whim of the Party boss and his cronies.

The fact is that as things are right now, the Communist government of China
presents one face to outsiders and another uglier face to its own people, so
don't be fooled. This is essentially a government that leeches off the hard
work of the people by doing crazy things like imposing tree tax on peasant
farmers. They are only one step removed from North Korea and no amount of
lying will endear them to their own people, not the people of Hong Kong, not
the people of Taiwan, Japan, South Korea or South East Asia. Yes, do
business with China because that will help the people of China get out of
poverty and an empowered Chinese citizenry is better positioned to reform
China, but do not buy in to Communist propaganda of empty race pride.
Post by ck_in_sf1
Liar
--
intruder
2003-12-23 23:50:26 UTC
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Post by ck_in_sf1
Post by 4u2c
Can you show me which part of China's constitution that does not allow a
muslim to be their Prime Minister or President?
Actually the entire Constitution of China would forbid a person
practicing a religion to be at the helm.
Indeed the accusation of being a liar must have some validity.

Under th Chines constitution, people have freedom of religion. China
remains a one-party state, where all social organization and group
must have government or Communist Party approval or sponsors, and
religious groups that refuse to register with official bodies are
regarded as a threat to stability or national security.
This means that china does not forbid but contains religions activity.
Post by ck_in_sf1
Do not forget that China is a
Communist country and religion is banned in all official matters.
Irrelevant.
France has banned religion from public schools and places. It is not
communist.
Post by ck_in_sf1
CKSF
Intruder

--One man tells a lie, dozens repeat it as the truth--
Ahmad Sayuthi
2003-12-24 05:28:36 UTC
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Post by intruder
Under th Chines constitution, people have freedom of religion. China
remains a one-party state, where all social organization and group
must have government or Communist Party approval or sponsors, and
religious groups that refuse to register with official bodies are
regarded as a threat to stability or national security.
This means that china does not forbid but contains religions activity.
Nice cut-and-paste.
However, it's only proper that you acknowledge and credit the original
writer instead of trying to pass it as your own.
jay
2003-12-24 22:03:17 UTC
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 00:50:26 +0100, intruder
Post by intruder
Post by ck_in_sf1
Post by 4u2c
Can you show me which part of China's constitution that does not allow a
muslim to be their Prime Minister or President?
Actually the entire Constitution of China would forbid a person
practicing a religion to be at the helm.
Indeed the accusation of being a liar must have some validity.
Under th Chines constitution, people have freedom of religion. China
remains a one-party state, where all social organization and group
must have government or Communist Party approval or sponsors, and
religious groups that refuse to register with official bodies are
regarded as a threat to stability or national security.
stealing from others and telling us that it is your own writing.
please give your sources, thief.
intruder
2003-12-25 00:03:03 UTC
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Post by jay
Post by intruder
regarded as a threat to stability or national security.
stealing from others and telling us that it is your own writing.
please give your sources, thief.
He, he, he, hominide, you as a chinese Malaysian (especially those
hiding in the US) should know the source: The constitution of the RPC.
On the internet or in the library (here in Europe)
More than a billion people know that, but you are just a stupid
minority.


Intruder

--One man tells a lie, dozens repeat it as the truth--
jay
2003-12-25 19:29:55 UTC
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 01:03:03 +0100, intruder
Post by intruder
Post by jay
Post by intruder
regarded as a threat to stability or national security.
stealing from others and telling us that it is your own writing.
please give your sources, thief.
He, he, he, hominide, you as a chinese Malaysian (especially those
hiding in the US) should know the source: The constitution of the RPC.
On the internet or in the library (here in Europe)
More than a billion people know that, but you are just a stupid
minority.
then list your source monkey. it is very clear you can't think for
yourself, but at least give credit to the original author. you are
thief. not surprising given you monkeys are well known ones.
Post by intruder
Intruder
--One man tells a lie, dozens repeat it as the truth--
intruder
2003-12-26 10:10:55 UTC
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Post by jay
On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 01:03:03 +0100, intruder
Post by intruder
Post by jay
Post by intruder
regarded as a threat to stability or national security.
stealing from others and telling us that it is your own writing.
please give your sources, thief.
He, he, he, hominide, you as a chinese Malaysian (especially those
hiding in the US) should know the source: The constitution of the RPC.
On the internet or in the library (here in Europe)
More than a billion people know that, but you are just a stupid
minority.
then list your source monkey. it is very clear you can't think for
yourself, but at least give credit to the original author.
Giving the source author of the consitution of RPC to a hominide. Why
be so stupid. Tell me who is the author of the consitution of that
host country where you ilegally live.

Don't you as a Chinese Malaysian feel ashamed having such a low level
of education and general knowledge and lack of success. Tak Malu.



you are
Post by jay
thief. not surprising given you monkeys are well known ones.
It is surprising that you as Chinese Malaysian are so unsuccesful and
uneducated. Your situation is not common in Chinese Malaysian
communities in the US.
Post by jay
Post by intruder
Intruder
--One man tells a lie, dozens repeat it as the truth--
Intruder

--One man tells a lie, dozens repeat it as the truth--
jay
2003-12-26 17:46:17 UTC
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On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 11:10:55 +0100, intruder
Post by intruder
Post by jay
then list your source monkey. it is very clear you can't think for
yourself, but at least give credit to the original author.
Giving the source author of the consitution of RPC to a hominide. Why
be so stupid. Tell me who is the author of the consitution of that
host country where you ilegally live.
Don't you as a Chinese Malaysian feel ashamed having such a low level
of education and general knowledge and lack of success. Tak Malu.
you are
Post by jay
thief. not surprising given you monkeys are well known ones.
It is surprising that you as Chinese Malaysian are so unsuccesful and
uneducated. Your situation is not common in Chinese Malaysian
communities in the US.
lying monkey. tell me why you cut and paste?


and you would answer if you slept with your sister.
Post by intruder
Post by jay
Post by intruder
Intruder
--One man tells a lie, dozens repeat it as the truth--
Intruder
--One man tells a lie, dozens repeat it as the truth--
intruder
2003-12-26 19:37:41 UTC
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Post by jay
On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 11:10:55 +0100, intruder
Post by intruder
Post by jay
then list your source monkey. it is very clear you can't think for
yourself, but at least give credit to the original author.
Giving the source author of the consitution of RPC to a hominide. Why
be so stupid. Tell me who is the author of the consitution of that
host country where you ilegally live.
Don't you as a Chinese Malaysian feel ashamed having such a low level
of education and general knowledge and lack of success. Tak Malu.
you are
Post by jay
thief. not surprising given you monkeys are well known ones.
It is surprising that you as Chinese Malaysian are so unsuccesful and
uneducated. Your situation is not common in Chinese Malaysian
communities in the US.
lying monkey. tell me why you cut and paste?
Why so defensive you poor fool. You are just a Chinese Malaysian who
is just not educated and succesfull, while so many other Malaysian
Chinese are. Even that CKFS your gay love seems and claims to have
more succes than you.
Poor sod you must have a problem with that. Hope you manage to cope
with that inferiority complex.
Post by jay
and you would answer if you slept with your sister.
No i could not answer since I cannot follow you daily custom of your
family. I do not involve with incestious acts, just like your father
and aunty did. Besides you are the degenerated product of of a one
time fuck with your daddy and aunty.
Intruder

--One man tells a lie, dozens repeat it as the truth--
jay
2003-12-27 03:42:21 UTC
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On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:37:41 +0100, intruder
Post by intruder
Post by jay
and you would answer if you slept with your sister.
No i could not answer since I cannot follow you daily custom of your
family. I do not involve with incestious acts, just like your father
and aunty did. Besides you are the degenerated product of of a one
time fuck with your daddy and aunty.
by replying you've admitted to sleeping with your sister. perverted
ape.
Harbinger
2003-12-23 16:41:07 UTC
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When I was living in Hong Kong 25 years ago the Hong- Konger used the term "
AH CHA.". I asked what did "Ah Cha " mean. The reply I received was that
"CHA" meant inferior, no class or not up to standard. The reason was that
they licked the boot of the British colonialists.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Hey, really, is that so...
Thanks for the input.
now that begets another question,
will China allows any other non
pure Han chinese to be of anything !
remember,the chinese cousin did said,
"In China, three generations of our family
did not have the chance to get a good education "
besides,when hong kong was handed over
to china there existed about 10,000 ethnic
indians who were born & bred there..these
were the remnants of the trading community
from shanghai who escaped communism...
these ethnic indians are contributing to more
than 10 % of hong kong exports...yet,china denied
them citizenship ; based solely on race !
contrast this with thousands & thousands of ethnic
chinese who found refuge in india...they were
granted indian citizenships and are engaged gainfully
in leather trade with their own chinese schools and
dailies,till today...
china & chinese are quick to shout and demand
for rights but never seems to be practising what
they themselves demand of others...sheeesh !
Post by Peace2Peace
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:29:35 +0800
Post by t m z z
As long as you are a muslim, you can be the PM!
Post by Peace2Peace
PM Abdullah's China family link
PENANG - Two Chinese from Hainan came here for a family gathering and were
surprised to find that one of their cousins is now the Malaysian prime
minister.
Post by Peace2Peace
Mr Abdullah Ha Chenghui and his brother, Mr Rais Ha Chengqiang, on their
first visit to Malaysia, were among 600 relatives who came on Sunday for the
reunion of the descendants of Hassan Salleh, or Hah Su Chiang, the maternal
grandfather of Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
SNIP
STRAIGHTS TIMED
2003-12-23 19:09:10 UTC
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Post by Harbinger
When I was living in Hong Kong 25 years ago the Hong- Konger used the term "
AH CHA.". I asked what did "Ah Cha " mean. The reply I received was that
"CHA" meant inferior, no class or not up to standard. The reason was that
they licked the boot of the British colonialists.
yeah ! me too used to travel up & down honk kong 25
years ago ,and hongkies spate the word 'fuchainese'
on Singaporeans who were generally Hokkien Chinese ;
and you chinese from malaysia & singapore generally
have to lick their asses if you want any service...
of course,indonesian ethnic chinese did get better
treatment !

than when i did enter mailand,those northern chinese told
me they hate hong kong chinese...told me hong
kong chinese are boot lickers of british and guess what ;
this special staus for hong kong arose precisely cause
those chinese were boot licking the british !

and of course,the shanghainese do think every other
chinese are beneath their pubic hair...you are right ! you
chinese do hate each others ... LOL.
Post by Harbinger
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Hey, really, is that so...
Thanks for the input.
now that begets another question,
will China allows any other non
pure Han chinese to be of anything !
remember,the chinese cousin did said,
"In China, three generations of our family
did not have the chance to get a good education "
besides,when hong kong was handed over
to china there existed about 10,000 ethnic
indians who were born & bred there..these
were the remnants of the trading community
from shanghai who escaped communism...
these ethnic indians are contributing to more
than 10 % of hong kong exports...yet,china denied
them citizenship ; based solely on race !
contrast this with thousands & thousands of ethnic
chinese who found refuge in india...they were
granted indian citizenships and are engaged gainfully
in leather trade with their own chinese schools and
dailies,till today...
china & chinese are quick to shout and demand
for rights but never seems to be practising what
they themselves demand of others...sheeesh !
Post by Peace2Peace
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:29:35 +0800
Post by t m z z
As long as you are a muslim, you can be the PM!
Post by Peace2Peace
PM Abdullah's China family link
PENANG - Two Chinese from Hainan came here for a family gathering
and were
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
surprised to find that one of their cousins is now the Malaysian prime
minister.
Post by Peace2Peace
Mr Abdullah Ha Chenghui and his brother, Mr Rais Ha Chengqiang, on
their
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
first visit to Malaysia, were among 600 relatives who came on Sunday
for the
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
reunion of the descendants of Hassan Salleh, or Hah Su Chiang, the
maternal
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
grandfather of Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
SNIP
Bad boy
2003-12-23 21:32:56 UTC
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Racist bastard
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Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Harbinger
When I was living in Hong Kong 25 years ago the Hong- Konger used the term "
AH CHA.". I asked what did "Ah Cha " mean. The reply I received was that
"CHA" meant inferior, no class or not up to standard. The reason was that
they licked the boot of the British colonialists.
yeah ! me too used to travel up & down honk kong 25
years ago ,and hongkies spate the word 'fuchainese'
on Singaporeans who were generally Hokkien Chinese ;
and you chinese from malaysia & singapore generally
have to lick their asses if you want any service...
of course,indonesian ethnic chinese did get better
treatment !
than when i did enter mailand,those northern chinese told
me they hate hong kong chinese...told me hong
kong chinese are boot lickers of british and guess what ;
this special staus for hong kong arose precisely cause
those chinese were boot licking the british !
and of course,the shanghainese do think every other
chinese are beneath their pubic hair...you are right ! you
chinese do hate each others ... LOL.
Post by Harbinger
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Hey, really, is that so...
Thanks for the input.
now that begets another question,
will China allows any other non
pure Han chinese to be of anything !
remember,the chinese cousin did said,
"In China, three generations of our family
did not have the chance to get a good education "
besides,when hong kong was handed over
to china there existed about 10,000 ethnic
indians who were born & bred there..these
were the remnants of the trading community
from shanghai who escaped communism...
these ethnic indians are contributing to more
than 10 % of hong kong exports...yet,china denied
them citizenship ; based solely on race !
contrast this with thousands & thousands of ethnic
chinese who found refuge in india...they were
granted indian citizenships and are engaged gainfully
in leather trade with their own chinese schools and
dailies,till today...
china & chinese are quick to shout and demand
for rights but never seems to be practising what
they themselves demand of others...sheeesh !
Post by Peace2Peace
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:29:35 +0800
Post by t m z z
As long as you are a muslim, you can be the PM!
Post by Peace2Peace
PM Abdullah's China family link
PENANG - Two Chinese from Hainan came here for a family gathering
and were
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
surprised to find that one of their cousins is now the Malaysian prime
minister.
Post by Peace2Peace
Mr Abdullah Ha Chenghui and his brother, Mr Rais Ha Chengqiang, on
their
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
first visit to Malaysia, were among 600 relatives who came on Sunday
for the
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
reunion of the descendants of Hassan Salleh, or Hah Su Chiang, the
maternal
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
grandfather of Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
SNIP
STRAIGHTS TIMED
2003-12-24 04:12:01 UTC
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Post by Bad boy
Racist bastard
--
why don't you leave and let live !? LOL.

there's a biblical quotation,'judas went out
and hanged himself '...and there's another:
'go thou and do likewise'....
Bad boy
2003-12-24 05:46:57 UTC
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Racist bastard
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Peace2Peace
2003-12-24 00:41:56 UTC
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I don't think it's a real hate but more like a sibling rivalry as seen
between "Brit northerners" and "Brit southerners".

The closest thing one can compare a culture and civilisation like China
perhaps can be best described by the Borgs from Star Trek.

The Chinese are Borgs, they assimilate others. Many have overlooked a
simple fact that the Chinese is an ever evolving race in that sense
throughout their 5000 years of recorded history. Of course like the
Borgs, what have been assimilated is but a fraction of the entire human
race.

On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 02:09:10 +0700
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Harbinger
When I was living in Hong Kong 25 years ago the Hong- Konger used the term "
AH CHA.". I asked what did "Ah Cha " mean. The reply I received was that
"CHA" meant inferior, no class or not up to standard. The reason was that
they licked the boot of the British colonialists.
yeah ! me too used to travel up & down honk kong 25
years ago ,and hongkies spate the word 'fuchainese'
on Singaporeans who were generally Hokkien Chinese ;
and you chinese from malaysia & singapore generally
have to lick their asses if you want any service...
of course,indonesian ethnic chinese did get better
treatment !
than when i did enter mailand,those northern chinese told
me they hate hong kong chinese...told me hong
kong chinese are boot lickers of british and guess what ;
this special staus for hong kong arose precisely cause
those chinese were boot licking the british !
and of course,the shanghainese do think every other
chinese are beneath their pubic hair...you are right ! you
chinese do hate each others ... LOL.
Post by Harbinger
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Hey, really, is that so...
Thanks for the input.
now that begets another question,
will China allows any other non
pure Han chinese to be of anything !
remember,the chinese cousin did said,
"In China, three generations of our family
did not have the chance to get a good education "
besides,when hong kong was handed over
to china there existed about 10,000 ethnic
indians who were born & bred there..these
were the remnants of the trading community
from shanghai who escaped communism...
these ethnic indians are contributing to more
than 10 % of hong kong exports...yet,china denied
them citizenship ; based solely on race !
contrast this with thousands & thousands of ethnic
chinese who found refuge in india...they were
granted indian citizenships and are engaged gainfully
in leather trade with their own chinese schools and
dailies,till today...
china & chinese are quick to shout and demand
for rights but never seems to be practising what
they themselves demand of others...sheeesh !
Post by Peace2Peace
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:29:35 +0800
Post by t m z z
As long as you are a muslim, you can be the PM!
Post by Peace2Peace
PM Abdullah's China family link
PENANG - Two Chinese from Hainan came here for a family gathering
and were
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
surprised to find that one of their cousins is now the Malaysian prime
minister.
Post by Peace2Peace
Mr Abdullah Ha Chenghui and his brother, Mr Rais Ha Chengqiang, on
their
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
first visit to Malaysia, were among 600 relatives who came on Sunday
for the
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
reunion of the descendants of Hassan Salleh, or Hah Su Chiang, the
maternal
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
grandfather of Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
SNIP
STRAIGHTS TIMED
2003-12-24 05:05:50 UTC
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Post by Peace2Peace
I don't think it's a real hate but more like a sibling rivalry as seen
between "Brit northerners" and "Brit southerners".
try telling that to jews & arabs-both are Semitic race
claiming descedence from Abraham...try telling that
to india & pakistan, ethnically and culturally the same...

the mainland chinese really hated hong kong chinese
for many reasons...for one ,the mainland chinese blamed
hongkies for reminding them of their subjugation sitting
right on chinese soil-bootlicking the white British...

second,when china was cut off from rest of the world,
almost all exports and trade of china passed through
hong kong ; and the hong kong chinese used to give
the mainland chinese the short end plus some arrogance ...
Post by Peace2Peace
The closest thing one can compare a culture and civilisation like China
perhaps can be best described by the Borgs from Star Trek.
The Chinese are Borgs, they assimilate others. Many have overlooked a
simple fact that the Chinese is an ever evolving race in that sense
throughout their 5000 years of recorded history. Of course like the
Borgs, what have been assimilated is but a fraction of the entire human
race.
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 02:09:10 +0700
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Harbinger
When I was living in Hong Kong 25 years ago the Hong- Konger used the term "
AH CHA.". I asked what did "Ah Cha " mean. The reply I received was that
"CHA" meant inferior, no class or not up to standard. The reason was that
they licked the boot of the British colonialists.
yeah ! me too used to travel up & down honk kong 25
years ago ,and hongkies spate the word 'fuchainese'
on Singaporeans who were generally Hokkien Chinese ;
and you chinese from malaysia & singapore generally
have to lick their asses if you want any service...
of course,indonesian ethnic chinese did get better
treatment !
than when i did enter mailand,those northern chinese told
me they hate hong kong chinese...told me hong
kong chinese are boot lickers of british and guess what ;
this special staus for hong kong arose precisely cause
those chinese were boot licking the british !
and of course,the shanghainese do think every other
chinese are beneath their pubic hair...you are right ! you
chinese do hate each others ... LOL.
Post by Harbinger
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Hey, really, is that so...
Thanks for the input.
now that begets another question,
will China allows any other non
pure Han chinese to be of anything !
remember,the chinese cousin did said,
"In China, three generations of our family
did not have the chance to get a good education "
besides,when hong kong was handed over
to china there existed about 10,000 ethnic
indians who were born & bred there..these
were the remnants of the trading community
from shanghai who escaped communism...
these ethnic indians are contributing to more
than 10 % of hong kong exports...yet,china denied
them citizenship ; based solely on race !
contrast this with thousands & thousands of ethnic
chinese who found refuge in india...they were
granted indian citizenships and are engaged gainfully
in leather trade with their own chinese schools and
dailies,till today...
china & chinese are quick to shout and demand
for rights but never seems to be practising what
they themselves demand of others...sheeesh !
Post by Peace2Peace
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:29:35 +0800
Post by t m z z
As long as you are a muslim, you can be the PM!
Post by Peace2Peace
PM Abdullah's China family link
PENANG - Two Chinese from Hainan came here for a family gathering
and were
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
surprised to find that one of their cousins is now the Malaysian prime
minister.
Post by Peace2Peace
Mr Abdullah Ha Chenghui and his brother, Mr Rais Ha Chengqiang, on
their
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
first visit to Malaysia, were among 600 relatives who came on Sunday
for the
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
reunion of the descendants of Hassan Salleh, or Hah Su Chiang, the
maternal
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
grandfather of Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
SNIP
Pan
2003-12-24 04:39:39 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:05:50 +0700, STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
try telling that to jews & arabs-both are Semitic race
claiming descedence from Abraham
[snip]

Virtually all of them would agree with that statement, you schmuck.
:-)

Michael

If you would like to send a private email to me, please take out the TRASH, so to speak. Please do not email me something which you also posted.
Bad boy
2003-12-24 05:48:02 UTC
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Racist bastard
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MADCOW
2003-12-24 01:19:17 UTC
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WAit wait.....did India granted any Chinese in India citizenship even when
they are born in India and great grand parents migrated to India decades
ago? ;) Ever since India lost in the Sino-Indo war, India government has
been discriminating those Chinese who had been staying in India!

In Hong Kong, you don't need Chinese citizenship; you just need permanent
residence and you will be taken care of. Almost free healthcare services,
welfare grants...etc etc. IN fact, the Indian population in Hong Kong is
growing due to the fact that they are very much well taken care of in Hong
Kong rather than in their homeland India. In terms of welfare, they are not
being discriminated, as long as they have HK PRs.

I am not so sure about your claim of Indians not granted Chinese
citizenship, but some of the British who chose to stay in Hong Kong and work
as civil servants, has been granted Chinese citizenship when they applied
for it. Besides, I don't think what you say is true at all; if these Indians
have been travelling around, on what passport are they travelling with?
British passport? Expiring in 2007! India passport? Unlikely since they are
HK PR since birth!

BTW, China has more than 150 ethnic groups, though majority is Han.


MADCOW
Post by Harbinger
When I was living in Hong Kong 25 years ago the Hong- Konger used the term "
AH CHA.". I asked what did "Ah Cha " mean. The reply I received was that
"CHA" meant inferior, no class or not up to standard. The reason was that
they licked the boot of the British colonialists.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Hey, really, is that so...
Thanks for the input.
now that begets another question,
will China allows any other non
pure Han chinese to be of anything !
remember,the chinese cousin did said,
"In China, three generations of our family
did not have the chance to get a good education "
besides,when hong kong was handed over
to china there existed about 10,000 ethnic
indians who were born & bred there..these
were the remnants of the trading community
from shanghai who escaped communism...
these ethnic indians are contributing to more
than 10 % of hong kong exports...yet,china denied
them citizenship ; based solely on race !
contrast this with thousands & thousands of ethnic
chinese who found refuge in india...they were
granted indian citizenships and are engaged gainfully
in leather trade with their own chinese schools and
dailies,till today...
china & chinese are quick to shout and demand
for rights but never seems to be practising what
they themselves demand of others...sheeesh !
Post by Peace2Peace
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:29:35 +0800
Post by t m z z
As long as you are a muslim, you can be the PM!
Post by Peace2Peace
PM Abdullah's China family link
PENANG - Two Chinese from Hainan came here for a family gathering
and were
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
surprised to find that one of their cousins is now the Malaysian prime
minister.
Post by Peace2Peace
Mr Abdullah Ha Chenghui and his brother, Mr Rais Ha Chengqiang, on
their
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
first visit to Malaysia, were among 600 relatives who came on Sunday
for the
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
reunion of the descendants of Hassan Salleh, or Hah Su Chiang, the
maternal
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
grandfather of Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
SNIP
STRAIGHTS TIMED
2003-12-24 06:12:40 UTC
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india owes fuck all to china or chinese and they
don't need to grant any chinese anything let alone
indian citizenship's...understand that first !

now,calcutta is the place where you find the
concentration of ethnic chinese...calcutta which
is now called kolkatta was the former capital of
india before new delhi...calcutta lies in n.eastern
sector of india..most of ethnic indians of north eastern
region are Mongoloids unlike the Dravidians of s.india
or Aryans of punjab and etc..therfore feature & color wise
any chinese would be like any other indian from these
regions...no one knows whether you are a chinese
or assamese or from Sikkim unless you operate chinese
restaurant or wear a sign around your neck...in any
event in india no indians care too hoots about chinese there,
whatever your little knowledge picked from here and
there are just craps !

bulk of these chinese came to india to escape communism
from china and they were granted indian citizenship's on
humanitarian basis..Period ! otherwise these chinese are
just as useless and a burden to india...just like india hosting
the entire Tibetan community including Dalai Lama now ;or when
our chinese heroes from singapore escaped to india from
japanese invasion ...

whilst its also true tat chinese community in india did suffered
some humilation,temeperorily, when china treacherously invaded
india ;perfectly understandable practise which even our most liberal
and democratic USA dishing out to muslims today...
but unlike singapore and commie china one only encounters
officialdom rarely in india...otherwise the general public in
india treated the chinese fairly well ; something our singapore
government and its majority chinese refuses to do...!!!

i hd been to to calcuuta and honk hong numerous times..
i personally know some 'indian'chinese who had 'emigrated'
to hong kong and they love to converse with me in indian
language...the younger generation of indian chinese are
immigrating to canada and australia just like the indian
themselves...

ask any indian chinese if they ever want to go back to
china and i am 100 % positive they won't ; that speaks
itself...so stop spewing craps !
Post by MADCOW
WAit wait.....did India granted any Chinese in India citizenship even when
they are born in India and great grand parents migrated to India decades
ago? ;) Ever since India lost in the Sino-Indo war, India government has
been discriminating those Chinese who had been staying in India!
In Hong Kong, you don't need Chinese citizenship; you just need permanent
residence and you will be taken care of. Almost free healthcare services,
welfare grants...etc etc. IN fact, the Indian population in Hong Kong is
growing due to the fact that they are very much well taken care of in Hong
Kong rather than in their homeland India. In terms of welfare, they are not
being discriminated, as long as they have HK PRs.
I am not so sure about your claim of Indians not granted Chinese
citizenship, but some of the British who chose to stay in Hong Kong and work
as civil servants, has been granted Chinese citizenship when they applied
for it. Besides, I don't think what you say is true at all; if these Indians
have been travelling around, on what passport are they travelling with?
British passport? Expiring in 2007! India passport? Unlikely since they are
HK PR since birth!
BTW, China has more than 150 ethnic groups, though majority is Han.
MADCOW
Post by Harbinger
When I was living in Hong Kong 25 years ago the Hong- Konger used the term
"
Post by Harbinger
AH CHA.". I asked what did "Ah Cha " mean. The reply I received was that
"CHA" meant inferior, no class or not up to standard. The reason was that
they licked the boot of the British colonialists.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Hey, really, is that so...
Thanks for the input.
now that begets another question,
will China allows any other non
pure Han chinese to be of anything !
remember,the chinese cousin did said,
"In China, three generations of our family
did not have the chance to get a good education "
besides,when hong kong was handed over
to china there existed about 10,000 ethnic
indians who were born & bred there..these
were the remnants of the trading community
from shanghai who escaped communism...
these ethnic indians are contributing to more
than 10 % of hong kong exports...yet,china denied
them citizenship ; based solely on race !
contrast this with thousands & thousands of ethnic
chinese who found refuge in india...they were
granted indian citizenships and are engaged gainfully
in leather trade with their own chinese schools and
dailies,till today...
china & chinese are quick to shout and demand
for rights but never seems to be practising what
they themselves demand of others...sheeesh !
Post by Peace2Peace
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:29:35 +0800
Post by t m z z
As long as you are a muslim, you can be the PM!
Post by Peace2Peace
PM Abdullah's China family link
PENANG - Two Chinese from Hainan came here for a family gathering
and were
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
surprised to find that one of their cousins is now the Malaysian
prime
Post by Harbinger
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
minister.
Post by Peace2Peace
Mr Abdullah Ha Chenghui and his brother, Mr Rais Ha Chengqiang, on
their
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
first visit to Malaysia, were among 600 relatives who came on Sunday
for the
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
reunion of the descendants of Hassan Salleh, or Hah Su Chiang, the
maternal
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by t m z z
grandfather of Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
SNIP
Bad boy
2003-12-24 05:48:31 UTC
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Racist bastard

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MADCOW
2003-12-24 04:50:26 UTC
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Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
india owes fuck all to china or chinese and they
don't need to grant any chinese anything let alone
indian citizenship's...understand that first !
hahaha...that is right! So why do you think China owe India or Chinese
anything to grant them Chinese citizenship? ;) You are really good at double
standards...and Badboy is right, you are a really a racist!
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
now,calcutta is the place where you find the
concentration of ethnic chinese...calcutta which
is now called kolkatta was the former capital of
india before new delhi...calcutta lies in n.eastern
sector of india..most of ethnic indians of north eastern
region are Mongoloids unlike the Dravidians of s.india
or Aryans of punjab and etc..therfore feature & color wise
any chinese would be like any other indian from these
regions...no one knows whether you are a chinese
or assamese or from Sikkim unless you operate chinese
restaurant or wear a sign around your neck...in any
event in india no indians care too hoots about chinese there,
whatever your little knowledge picked from here and
there are just craps !
The fact still remains, whether they are "recognised" or not, isn't the
point; they are discriminated against by not given Indian citizenship!
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
bulk of these chinese came to india to escape communism
from china and they were granted indian citizenship's on
humanitarian basis..Period ! otherwise these chinese are
just as useless and a burden to india...just like india hosting
the entire Tibetan community including Dalai Lama now ;or when
our chinese heroes from singapore escaped to india from
japanese invasion ...
Sure! ;) So tell me, why do Indians go to Hong Kong? To "contribute" to
Chinese economy? LOL! Most of them are escaping poverty back in India and
found good livelihood here! And the Indian women are very willing to be
married to a Hong Kong Indian despite the fact that linguistically, they
will face alot of problems here!
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
whilst its also true tat chinese community in india did suffered
some humilation,temeperorily, when china treacherously invaded
india ;perfectly understandable practise which even our most liberal
and democratic USA dishing out to muslims today...
but unlike singapore and commie china one only encounters
officialdom rarely in india...otherwise the general public in
india treated the chinese fairly well ; something our singapore
government and its majority chinese refuses to do...!!!
China invaded India? hahahhaha! That's how you rewrite history? ;)

China responded to India's invasions! India was opportunistic in their
political moves and invasions. They thought they could claim victory over
China due to its internal woes back then. However, they have underestimated
the Chinese armies which were seasoned fighters and strategically more
superior than the Indians. In fact, the Indians were pushed back after
Chairman Mao decided to give them a thrashing. Zhou Eng Lai tried to talk
nicely to the Indian government but was diplomatically humiliated. The
Indian army were "paper tigers" and thousands were taken as POWs. But the
Chinese army withdrew not long after they have given the Indian paper tigers
a thrashing of their lifetime, and even return the PoWs to India govt not
long after. From then on, India, though scornful with pride hurt and as
ambitious as ever, never dare to invade China again!;)
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
i hd been to to calcuuta and honk hong numerous times..
i personally know some 'indian'chinese who had 'emigrated'
to hong kong and they love to converse with me in indian
language...the younger generation of indian chinese are
immigrating to canada and australia just like the indian
themselves...
ask any indian chinese if they ever want to go back to
china and i am 100 % positive they won't ; that speaks
itself...so stop spewing craps !
Your question is about twenty years late. ;)

MADCOW
STRAIGHTS TIMED
2003-12-24 11:05:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by MADCOW
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
india owes fuck all to china or chinese and they
don't need to grant any chinese anything let alone
indian citizenship's...understand that first !
hahaha...that is right! So why do you think China owe India or Chinese
anything to grant them Chinese citizenship? ;) You are really good at double
standards...and Badboy is right, you are a really a racist!
sure ! your train of thoughts is just a string of empties ;
and you do have the penchant for putting your foot
repeatedly into your mouth too..perhaps,if you put down
the little mao red book and contemplate it may help!

india owes nothing to those pathetically beggars of chinese
who came running to india...they simply are a burden and
useless too with a possibility of engaging in third
rated activities...yet ,india took them in and fed and house
the chinese for free-its called humanitarian..

contrast this with china's peevish and pettie attitude over
Indians in hong kong...the indians were the responsibility
of the British since hong kong was their colony...just
like our singapore and malaysia...the chinese and the indians
here in british malaya & singapore shared the same similarities
with the ethnic indians of hong kong...

the british then negotiated with the malay rulers to grant
citizenship rights to the ethnic chinese and indians ,to whom
they were returning the soverignity...of course,the british
were successful and that's the most humane thing to do..

the british tried the same for others including ethnic indians
some fifty years later with china when hong kong was to
be returned to china...but the fucken china,like you is racist
regime; they declined ...even though unlike malaysia or
singapore where a situation of almost 50 % of the population
were non natives-malays existed- a very explosive situation..

therfore,granting citizenships ton non chinese in hong kong
would be hardly any threatening to the chinese or china politically
or otherwise...a few thousand of non chinese amongst more
than 1 billion would be like a drop in the ocean and yet
the chinese showed their ugly racist face !

now,compare this action with india,who granted indian
citizenship to chinese refugees only on humanitarian
basis...need i say more !
Post by MADCOW
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
now,calcutta is the place where you find the
concentration of ethnic chinese...calcutta which
is now called kolkatta was the former capital of
india before new delhi...calcutta lies in n.eastern
sector of india..most of ethnic indians of north eastern
region are Mongoloids unlike the Dravidians of s.india
or Aryans of punjab and etc..therfore feature & color wise
any chinese would be like any other indian from these
regions...no one knows whether you are a chinese
or assamese or from Sikkim unless you operate chinese
restaurant or wear a sign around your neck...in any
event in india no indians care too hoots about chinese there,
whatever your little knowledge picked from here and
there are just craps !
The fact still remains, whether they are "recognised" or not, isn't the
point; they are discriminated against by not given Indian citizenship!
you seems to be shallow on the mental capacity..ethnic chinese
in india are indian nationals-period !

go to Calcutta and see yourself !
Post by MADCOW
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
bulk of these chinese came to india to escape communism
from china and they were granted indian citizenship's on
humanitarian basis..Period ! otherwise these chinese are
just as useless and a burden to india...just like india hosting
the entire Tibetan community including Dalai Lama now ;or when
our chinese heroes from singapore escaped to india from
japanese invasion ...
Sure! ;) So tell me, why do Indians go to Hong Kong? To "contribute" to
Chinese economy? LOL! Most of them are escaping poverty back in India and
found good livelihood here! And the Indian women are very willing to be
married to a Hong Kong Indian despite the fact that linguistically, they
will face alot of problems here!
i told you that you will be putting your feet in you own mouth
repeatedly ,and you have not failed me !

indian diaspora like the chinese diaspora or jews diaspora
are spread all around the world...you seems to have this
coolie mentality...just because your father or grandfather
was a pathetic skeleton who came to malaya so that he
can eat a square meal does not make all one...you see,
whilst its true,that most chinese came to this part of the
world as coolies i cannot recall indians going to china to
escape poverty...

you made yourself a real joke here ! if chinese are running
away from china on account of poverty i can't imagine why
indians must rush to china to share china's poverty ! on the
oher hand indians were well known for their entrepreneurial
skills,a fact established for thousands of years,therfore i
speculate the existence of indians in china came about
because you chinese are stupid ! LOL.

anyway,many things were pioneered by indians in hong
kong that includes the first ferry terminal and banking !

even now,just about 10,000 indians are contributing to
more than 10 % hong kong exports...guess,by that
reasoning all they need is just 90,000 chinese to make
hong kong economically viable.. LOL.
Post by MADCOW
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
whilst its also true tat chinese community in india did suffered
some humilation,temeperorily, when china treacherously invaded
india ;perfectly understandable practise which even our most liberal
and democratic USA dishing out to muslims today...
but unlike singapore and commie china one only encounters
officialdom rarely in india...otherwise the general public in
india treated the chinese fairly well ; something our singapore
government and its majority chinese refuses to do...!!!
China invaded India? hahahhaha! That's how you rewrite history? ;)
ever though of a change of career ! may i recommend fictional
writting ! LOL.
Post by MADCOW
China responded to India's invasions! India was opportunistic in their
political moves and invasions. They thought they could claim victory over
China due to its internal woes back then. However, they have underestimated
the Chinese armies which were seasoned fighters and strategically more
superior than the Indians. In fact, the Indians were pushed back after
Chairman Mao decided to give them a thrashing. Zhou Eng Lai tried to talk
nicely to the Indian government but was diplomatically humiliated. The
Indian army were "paper tigers" and thousands were taken as POWs. But the
Chinese army withdrew not long after they have given the Indian paper tigers
a thrashing of their lifetime, and even return the PoWs to India govt not
long after. From then on, India, though scornful with pride hurt and as
ambitious as ever, never dare to invade China again!;)
for a start i must agree with you that indian soldiers are paper tigers!
mmm! but strange though , since the british army almost always
used the indian army in most of their famous battles...especialy,
in the worl war 11 but i can't recall one chinese regiment fighting
in other partsof the world,you know why !

and i also cannot figure why the british used only the Indian
troopers to control the chinese in hong kong ! i am sure
the tall well built indians must be peeing their pants at the
sight of scrawny chinese... LOL.

now,this bit of india invading china will really make a good
hollywood movie but i must see the scripts...but these are
the odds against you !, in the early 60s we have in hand
a china-the trouble maker,insurgency in malaya & singapore
& indonsia...communism was its state ideology which even
turned their own children against their parents...what the
heck,didn't mao said ,'real power comes from the barrel
of a gun'....so we have a very delinquent pariah of a statre
called china...

on the other hand we had nehru of india,who saw himself
as the world non-alingned and pacist leader...the india
of those days was the by product of the non-violent and
peace loving Gandhi's ....you guessed it,india was in
no fighting mood...

anyway,you can get tons of materials on who invaded
who in the net but be reminded that even LKY himself
mentioned that he declined to accept a book which
gave a twisted version of the sino Indian war from china ;
saying the world thinks otherwise !
Post by MADCOW
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
i hd been to to calcuuta and honk hong numerous times..
i personally know some 'indian'chinese who had 'emigrated'
to hong kong and they love to converse with me in indian
language...the younger generation of indian chinese are
immigrating to canada and australia just like the indian
themselves...
ask any indian chinese if they ever want to go back to
china and i am 100 % positive they won't ; that speaks
itself...so stop spewing craps !
Your question is about twenty years late. ;)
why !
Post by MADCOW
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Peace2Peace
2003-12-24 00:20:49 UTC
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I suppose you mean your Singapore is an exception since it has both
Indian President and Ministers in its govt.

So does anyone know if any of the top govt officials in China Mainland
are non-Han?

I believe there is a Muslim top guy in the current Chinese Govt as I
read it somewhere before.


On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:27:40 +0700
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Hey, really, is that so...
Thanks for the input.
now that begets another question,
will China allows any other non
pure Han chinese to be of anything !
remember,the chinese cousin did said,
"In China, three generations of our family
did not have the chance to get a good education "
besides,when hong kong was handed over
to china there existed about 10,000 ethnic
indians who were born & bred there..these
were the remnants of the trading community
from shanghai who escaped communism...
these ethnic indians are contributing to more
than 10 % of hong kong exports...yet,china denied
them citizenship ; based solely on race !
contrast this with thousands & thousands of ethnic
chinese who found refuge in india...they were
granted indian citizenships and are engaged gainfully
in leather trade with their own chinese schools and
dailies,till today...
china & chinese are quick to shout and demand
for rights but never seems to be practising what
they themselves demand of others...sheeesh !
Post by Peace2Peace
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:29:35 +0800
Post by t m z z
As long as you are a muslim, you can be the PM!
Post by Peace2Peace
PM Abdullah's China family link
PENANG - Two Chinese from Hainan came here for a family gathering and were
surprised to find that one of their cousins is now the Malaysian prime
minister.
Post by Peace2Peace
Mr Abdullah Ha Chenghui and his brother, Mr Rais Ha Chengqiang, on their
first visit to Malaysia, were among 600 relatives who came on Sunday for the
reunion of the descendants of Hassan Salleh, or Hah Su Chiang, the maternal
grandfather of Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
SNIP
STRAIGHTS TIMED
2003-12-24 04:08:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Peace2Peace
I suppose you mean your Singapore is an exception since it has both
Indian President and Ministers in its govt.
i see you are little lost on history & geography ; singapore
is not on the way from beijing to shanghai...the word singapore
itself is purely tamil...and the natives of singapore are malays...

besides,chinese and china had contributed nothing to
this region except t mayhem ,murder and insurgency whereas
the indian civilization and the colonial british had contributed
many which includes our current civil,judiciary,education,
institutions and etc. etc. etc.....

singapore constitution enshrines special rights to malays
but its mocked by mandarin campaigns and racially
segregated special schools for chinese-SAPschools, amongst
other things...so,this indian being a president here is
just another number game...

what more,vast majority of stateless chinese got their
singapore citizenships,in the past, by a stroke of a pen ;
thanks to a jew-david marshall...

so,you see ! singapore is not a 3rd china,understand ...
Post by Peace2Peace
So does anyone know if any of the top govt officials in China Mainland
are non-Han?
not many do ! in fact no one knows what exactly goes on
in that commie world called china...SARS was a good
example...china gave SARS to the world but kept
everything under wraps till people were dropping dead
around the globe...

if not for the world health organization threatening to cut
off china from rest of humanity ; SARS ! ,what SARS !?
china kept saying ....
Post by Peace2Peace
I believe there is a Muslim top guy in the current Chinese Govt as I
read it somewhere before.
guess it would do justice to commie propaganda har !
i am sure you will frame that poster boy in glited edge
frame,wouln't you !

just look around the trail of treachery and destruction
china had imposed on its neighbouring countries and
other races & ethnicity...who were the CPM!,communist
party of malaya ; almost entirely chinese for chinese...the
bloody coup that toppled sukarno(indonesia) and the blood
bath that followed which left more than half-million of ethnic
chinese dead was engineered by china...Pol Pot the
butcher of cambodia was on the sole support of china,
1 out of 4 cambodians are without limbs today,no thanks
to china...chow en lai came and hugged nehru of india
with ,'inde and chine bai bai !',meaning indians & chinese
are brothers-within 6 months chinese troops stormed
a totally unprepared india-such treachery !

vietnam,mynmmar,and proliferation of nuclear arms to
north korea & pakistan...the list is endless...
Post by Peace2Peace
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:27:40 +0700
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Hey, really, is that so...
Thanks for the input.
now that begets another question,
will China allows any other non
pure Han chinese to be of anything !
remember,the chinese cousin did said,
"In China, three generations of our family
did not have the chance to get a good education "
besides,when hong kong was handed over
to china there existed about 10,000 ethnic
indians who were born & bred there..these
were the remnants of the trading community
from shanghai who escaped communism...
these ethnic indians are contributing to more
than 10 % of hong kong exports...yet,china denied
them citizenship ; based solely on race !
contrast this with thousands & thousands of ethnic
chinese who found refuge in india...they were
granted indian citizenships and are engaged gainfully
in leather trade with their own chinese schools and
dailies,till today...
china & chinese are quick to shout and demand
for rights but never seems to be practising what
they themselves demand of others...sheeesh !
Post by Peace2Peace
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:29:35 +0800
Post by t m z z
As long as you are a muslim, you can be the PM!
Post by Peace2Peace
PM Abdullah's China family link
PENANG - Two Chinese from Hainan came here for a family gathering and were
surprised to find that one of their cousins is now the Malaysian prime
minister.
Post by Peace2Peace
Mr Abdullah Ha Chenghui and his brother, Mr Rais Ha Chengqiang, on their
first visit to Malaysia, were among 600 relatives who came on Sunday for the
reunion of the descendants of Hassan Salleh, or Hah Su Chiang, the maternal
grandfather of Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
SNIP
Peace2Peace
2003-12-24 05:42:40 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:08:11 +0700
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
I suppose you mean your Singapore is an exception since it has both
Indian President and Ministers in its govt.
i see you are little lost on history & geography ; singapore
is not on the way from beijing to shanghai...the word singapore
itself is purely tamil...and the natives of singapore are malays...
Aren't we talking about a country where the majority is Chinese and
Chinese that hold sway? Thanks for you little geography lesson anyway.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
besides,chinese and china had contributed nothing to
this region except t mayhem ,murder and insurgency whereas
the indian civilization and the colonial british had contributed
many which includes our current civil,judiciary,education,
institutions and etc. etc. etc.....
I am sure the Indian Civilization, being one of the four main ancient
Civilizations, have greatly contributed positively to mankind on the
whole but you made yourself such a nitwit by belittling China on the
other hand. The British did but mainly served their own interests. Would
India today like revert itself being a prize colony of the Queen again
then, since you seemed to be so utterly happy and cherishing those
colony days gone by?

You can list me a million things what is crap or wrong with China and
the Chinese past and present and I can easily similarly provide you just
a Top Ten List of the society of India yestermillenia and today.

Very Pointless.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
singapore constitution enshrines special rights to malays
but its mocked by mandarin campaigns and racially
segregated special schools for chinese-SAPschools, amongst
other things...so,this indian being a president here is
just another number game...
I am sure the malays can similarly have a speak Malaysian Malay Only and
the Indian can have speak Tamil Indian Only campaigns if they wanted to.
Equally, the Indians and Malays can have their specialised school if
they are organised enough and desire to do so.

Quite Pointless.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
what more,vast majority of stateless chinese got their
singapore citizenships,in the past, by a stroke of a pen ;
Why don't you ask India if they would like to have 70% of their
population being non-"Indian". If they agreed I shall ask Singapore PAP, not that
they are chums of mine, you understand but, just for you
buddy, just for you, to have a 70 percent of non-Chinese population.

Pointless.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
thanks to a jew-david marshall...
Are you a Mathatir wannabe?

Not only utterly pointless but disquietingly tasteless.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
so,you see ! singapore is not a 3rd china,understand ...
Who give a shit about a 3rd China? Are you a commie?
So if USA should have 70% Chinese population it is then 4th China?
Yes maybe but nobody is talking about that here.

You are very confused about what Singapore really is aren't you?
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
So does anyone know if any of the top govt officials in China Mainland
are non-Han?
not many do ! in fact no one knows what exactly goes on
in that commie world called china...SARS was a good
example...china gave SARS to the world but kept
everything under wraps till people were dropping dead
around the globe...
Stop! Stop! Stop talking for the sake of talking and talking over
nothing. You bore me.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
if not for the world health organization threatening to cut
off china from rest of humanity ; SARS ! ,what SARS !?
china kept saying ....
Yes I totally agreed with you about the SARS case, just like the Russian
nuclear explosion two decades back.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
I believe there is a Muslim top guy in the current Chinese Govt as I
read it somewhere before.
guess it would do justice to commie propaganda har !
i am sure you will frame that poster boy in glited edge
frame,wouln't you !
Yes, I will try to agreed with you here again just to make you happy.
Just like Saddam got a Christian to be his foreign minister.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
just look around the trail of treachery and destruction
china had imposed on its neighbouring countries and
other races & ethnicity...who were the CPM!,communist
party of malaya ; almost entirely chinese for chinese...the
bloody coup that toppled sukarno(indonesia) and the blood
bath that followed which left more than half-million of ethnic
chinese dead was engineered by china...Pol Pot the
butcher of cambodia was on the sole support of china,
1 out of 4 cambodians are without limbs today,no thanks
to china...chow en lai came and hugged nehru of india
with ,'inde and chine bai bai !',meaning indians & chinese
are brothers-within 6 months chinese troops stormed
a totally unprepared india-such treachery !
You got a very biased and unscientific way of presenting history.
You are like Mathatir ten years later who still whining about "they
called me recalcitrant.."
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
vietnam,mynmmar,and proliferation of nuclear arms to
north korea & pakistan...the list is endless...
You are amazingly small in your worldview, USA is the biggest
practitioner of such policy, Saddam, Osama Bin Layla, Noregia and the
freaking list go on and on and on, why just single out China even when
every account you stated was true?

Anyway have a happy happy happy Channukah!!!!!!
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:27:40 +0700
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Hey, really, is that so...
Thanks for the input.
now that begets another question,
will China allows any other non
pure Han chinese to be of anything !
remember,the chinese cousin did said,
"In China, three generations of our family
did not have the chance to get a good education "
besides,when hong kong was handed over
to china there existed about 10,000 ethnic
indians who were born & bred there..these
were the remnants of the trading community
from shanghai who escaped communism...
these ethnic indians are contributing to more
than 10 % of hong kong exports...yet,china denied
them citizenship ; based solely on race !
contrast this with thousands & thousands of ethnic
chinese who found refuge in india...they were
granted indian citizenships and are engaged gainfully
in leather trade with their own chinese schools and
dailies,till today...
china & chinese are quick to shout and demand
for rights but never seems to be practising what
they themselves demand of others...sheeesh !
Post by Peace2Peace
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:29:35 +0800
Post by t m z z
As long as you are a muslim, you can be the PM!
Post by Peace2Peace
PM Abdullah's China family link
PENANG - Two Chinese from Hainan came here for a family gathering and were
surprised to find that one of their cousins is now the Malaysian prime
minister.
Post by Peace2Peace
Mr Abdullah Ha Chenghui and his brother, Mr Rais Ha Chengqiang, on their
first visit to Malaysia, were among 600 relatives who came on Sunday for the
reunion of the descendants of Hassan Salleh, or Hah Su Chiang, the maternal
grandfather of Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
SNIP
STRAIGHTS TIMED
2003-12-24 09:29:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by Peace2Peace
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:08:11 +0700
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
I suppose you mean your Singapore is an exception since it has both
Indian President and Ministers in its govt.
i see you are little lost on history & geography ; singapore
is not on the way from beijing to shanghai...the word singapore
itself is purely tamil...and the natives of singapore are malays...
Aren't we talking about a country where the majority is Chinese and
Chinese that hold sway? Thanks for you little geography lesson anyway.
spoken like a jaundiced pig that chews the cud ! anyway
if your history lessons here are to warn countries taking
in chinese to be beware or they could become a majority ;
point taken,i shall circulate this to canada & australia to keep
a close tab on chinese immigration...now,they did ban
chinese women entries to these countries in the past,
right ! me wonders why ,do you know...

fool ! if not for the grace of native malays you and i would
be stateless just like the chinese in Brunei ,understand...
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
besides,chinese and china had contributed nothing to
this region except t mayhem ,murder and insurgency whereas
the indian civilization and the colonial british had contributed
many which includes our current civil,judiciary,education,
institutions and etc. etc. etc.....
I am sure the Indian Civilization, being one of the four main ancient
Civilizations, have greatly contributed positively to mankind on the
whole but you made yourself such a nitwit by belittling China on the
other hand. The British did but mainly served their own interests. Would
India today like revert itself being a prize colony of the Queen again
then, since you seemed to be so utterly happy and cherishing those
colony days gone by?
you convinced me about reincarnation- tell me
which part of a turkey you were in previous existence.. LOL.

indian chronicle wrote of this region as early as 1500 BC
and the ancient epic ramayana also mentions this region..at
that time india was considered the pinnacle of civilization and
in apex of its cultural vigor...india gave hinduism,buddhism
and islam to this region..healing practices,astronomy,
navigation techniques,the potter's wheel,horses and
elephents,textile dying,plank boats and wheeled carts,
figure sculpture and decorative arts,written literature,
monumental architecture,spices for cooking,,many
legal practises,numerous titles relating to social rank
and regal pomp,wet rice cultivation,animal husbandry,
glass and mirror are but just a few of india's contribution
to this region and its natives..

but their most far reaching and significant contributions
were metaphysics,philosophy the concept of divine..

the british on the other hand hand left us with a legacy
without which we would be lost,their education,their
infrastructures ,their institutions,their judiciary,their
hirearchy of civil & armed forces,their method of
governance and of course the english language !

own interest ,you said ! colonial masters you said !
Yes ! they were but were largely benovalent,too...now,
what the fuck did the chinese here had contributed except
to benefit from all the resources and nest themselves
and china too !
Post by Peace2Peace
You can list me a million things what is crap or wrong with China and
the Chinese past and present and I can easily similarly provide you just
a Top Ten List of the society of India yestermillenia and today.
Very Pointless.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
singapore constitution enshrines special rights to malays
but its mocked by mandarin campaigns and racially
segregated special schools for chinese-SAPschools, amongst
other things...so,this indian being a president here is
just another number game...
I am sure the malays can similarly have a speak Malaysian Malay Only and
the Indian can have speak Tamil Indian Only campaigns if they wanted to.
Equally, the Indians and Malays can have their specialised school if
they are organised enough and desire to do so.
Quite Pointless.
sure ! where did you came from,mars or were you just
woken up after 40 years of hibernation or what !

we are taking about singapore,where the government
holds absolute sway on every matters,personal or
otherwise...mandarin campaigns and SAP chinese
schools are not private...they are paid by tax payers
money !

malay incidently is our national language but you won't
get a job if you can't speak mandarin and non chinese
are forbidden to offer mandarin as a subject...see the
anamoly,thats the chinese majority singapore ! sheeesh

incidently,talking about freedom,sikhs are allowed their
turban and christians their cross in schools but no tudung
for muslims...thats the kind of equality chinese majority
offers here .
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
what more,vast majority of stateless chinese got their
singapore citizenships,in the past, by a stroke of a pen ;
Why don't you ask India if they would like to have 70% of their
population being non-"Indian". If they agreed I shall ask Singapore PAP, not that
they are chums of mine, you understand but, just for you
buddy, just for you, to have a 70 percent of non-Chinese population.
you are like the clothes moth-always chewing the rag, pretty
dense but what the heck ,there is nothing a miracle cannot
cure ...LOL.

besides i should not be accused for lack of trying,let me speak
pidgin english for your benefit...

S I N G A P O R E ,um No No C H I N A, um !
Okie Dokie !
Post by Peace2Peace
Pointless.
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
thanks to a jew-david marshall...
Are you a Mathatir wannabe?
Not only utterly pointless but disquietingly tasteless.
sure ! david marshall must be turning in his grave
if he knew how ungrateful you chinese are-too late now !
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
so,you see ! singapore is not a 3rd china,understand ...
Who give a shit about a 3rd China?
you are !
Post by Peace2Peace
Are you a commie?
So if USA should have 70% Chinese population it is then 4th China?
Yes maybe but nobody is talking about that here.
mmm! USA did had a law banning chinese women
entry,ask around why and they will tell you !.....

4th China ! Nah...with 70 % chinese majority US will
then be made 1st China and the current china nuked
to wipe all its past,just as the first emperor of china
did... LOL.
Post by Peace2Peace
You are very confused about what Singapore really is aren't you?
come to think of it, I am, I am, tell me more....
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
So does anyone know if any of the top govt officials in China Mainland
are non-Han?
not many do ! in fact no one knows what exactly goes on
in that commie world called china...SARS was a good
example...china gave SARS to the world but kept
everything under wraps till people were dropping dead
around the globe...
Stop! Stop! Stop talking for the sake of talking and talking over
nothing. You bore me.
ok,you may then please fuck off,thanks ...
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
if not for the world health organization threatening to cut
off china from rest of humanity ; SARS ! ,what SARS !?
china kept saying ....
Yes I totally agreed with you about the SARS case, just like the Russian
nuclear explosion two decades back.
sure,dragging in other mishaps justifies china's eh !
wrong ! russian mishap only killed their,china's
lies about SARS killed every others too ,the lying
commie bastards ...
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
I believe there is a Muslim top guy in the current Chinese Govt as I
read it somewhere before.
guess it would do justice to commie propaganda har !
i am sure you will frame that poster boy in glited edge
frame,wouln't you !
Yes, I will try to agreed with you here again just to make you happy.
Just like Saddam got a Christian to be his foreign minister.
ok ! make me happier just stuck your head into the
nearest toilet bowl...and Oh,don't forget to flush,
its not polite if you don't....
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
just look around the trail of treachery and destruction
china had imposed on its neighbouring countries and
other races & ethnicity...who were the CPM!,communist
party of malaya ; almost entirely chinese for chinese...the
bloody coup that toppled sukarno(indonesia) and the blood
bath that followed which left more than half-million of ethnic
chinese dead was engineered by china...Pol Pot the
butcher of cambodia was on the sole support of china,
1 out of 4 cambodians are without limbs today,no thanks
to china...chow en lai came and hugged nehru of india
with ,'inde and chine bai bai !',meaning indians & chinese
are brothers-within 6 months chinese troops stormed
a totally unprepared india-such treachery !
You got a very biased and unscientific way of presenting history.
You are like Mathatir ten years later who still whining about "they
called me recalcitrant.."
there is nothing scientific about chinese treachery,
why don't you ask the millions and millions of
human remains how unbiased the chinese were...

perhaps,you should stop and talk to the children who
lost their parents and left to wander and fend for themselves
in the remains of trash bins and garbage and also the little
one who lost both their limbs why chinese had done
them these- in the name of science ...
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
vietnam,mynmmar,and proliferation of nuclear arms to
north korea & pakistan...the list is endless...
You are amazingly small in your worldview, USA is the biggest
practitioner of such policy, Saddam, Osama Bin Layla, Noregia and the
freaking list go on and on and on, why just single out China even when
every account you stated was true?
like i said ! you are the kind who sows wild oats and
hope for failures... sure, they are bastards but does that
make you chinese any less...besides,despite all that ;
people are still beating their ways to US,there must be
some redeeming quality...now,i never ever heard chinese
here wanting to pack their bag home to their beloved
motherland -china...that says it alll....it must be mother of
all evil....
Post by Peace2Peace
Anyway have a happy happy happy Channukah!!!!!!
Bad boy
2003-12-24 09:51:15 UTC
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2003-12-24 05:48:56 UTC
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2003-12-25 03:37:05 UTC
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Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
Post by Peace2Peace
Hey, really, is that so...
Thanks for the input.
now that begets another question,
will China allows any other non
pure Han chinese to be of anything !
The Manchurians were emperors for decades.
Indians have to wait in Q.....

Chinese Hans are also waiting to sit on Maharajahs' thrones for centuries.
4u2c
2003-12-23 10:10:32 UTC
Permalink
Not under the present constitution and we intend to keep it that way.
Post by Peace2Peace
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:29:35 +0800
Post by t m z z
As long as you are a muslim, you can be the PM!
Loga
2003-12-23 12:32:42 UTC
Permalink
No wonder he looked like that trishaw Ah Pek, I just saw.
Post by Peace2Peace
Post by Peace2Peace
PM Abdullah's China family link
PENANG - Two Chinese from Hainan came here for a family gathering and were
surprised to find that one of their cousins is now the Malaysian prime
minister.
Post by Peace2Peace
Mr Abdullah Ha Chenghui and his brother, Mr Rais Ha Chengqiang, on their
first visit to Malaysia, were among 600 relatives who came on Sunday for the
reunion of the descendants of Hassan Salleh, or Hah Su Chiang, the maternal
grandfather of Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
SNIP
Abdul Malek Zakaria
2003-12-27 04:14:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by t m z z
As long as you are a muslim, you can be the PM!
I could not find anything in the Federal Constitution that says the
Prime Minister must be a Muslim. Or a Malay. Or has they (again)
amended the Constitution.

Wally
2003-12-24 00:58:51 UTC
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You have a fight with your neighbour. One day he tell you that you both
share the same grandfather and he extend his hand to you in a handshake. If
you slap the hand away, you are a hateful and stupid person.

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ZULH
2003-12-23 13:29:52 UTC
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I just remember the history of a Sultan Melaka married to Puteri Hang Li Po.
What a nice sweet time it was...... it was time of peace in this land.

A Tribute to Peaceful Tanah Melayu
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We used to see only colorful views... at those times of joice,
But not the Colors;
Until those White came,
And taught us the Colors!

ZULH Dec 23, 2003.
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Post by Peace2Peace
PM Abdullah's China family link
PENANG - Two Chinese from Hainan came here for a family gathering and were
surprised to find that one of their cousins is now the Malaysian prime
minister.
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