Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings in order to be kind to animals?

[f***@gmail.com]

Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC, those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe. Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lèse Majesté.

The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the worsening problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however minor, are reported in screaming headlines.

The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common sight in common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You cannot eat in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover food to have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food. Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open area is worse. It has become a health hazard.

The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings in order to be kind to animals?

[The_Inquirer]

Post by f***@gmail.com
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC, those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe. Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lèse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the worsening problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common sight in common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You cannot eat in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover food to have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food. Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings in order to be kind to animals?

but most of us also eat animals for food ... why is that not "cruelty"?

[b***@gmail.com]

Tat was a very good question aim directly at those animal lovers.. Hehehe

[AleXX]

Post by f***@gmail.com
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC,
those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for
their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one
dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe.
Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves
kings and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it
in any way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lèse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the
worsening problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against
animals, however minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all
over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common sight in
common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You cannot
eat in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover
food to have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables.
They also flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and
uncooked food. Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a
meal in an open area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human
beings in order to be kind to animals?

We can start a Society for the Prevention of Harm to Homo Sapiens (SPHHS)

Dictionary:
Harm from the word "harmful" and not from the word "Mee Siam Mai Harm"

[The_Inquirer]

Post by AleXX
We can start a Society for the Prevention of Harm to Homo Sapiens (SPHHS)
Harm from the word "harmful" and not from the word "Mee Siam Mai Harm"

all the same: can you "siam" (avoid) the harm?

[f***@gmail.com]

The authority has caught a suspect who has the mentality of a kid and can only give monosyllabic answers to questions. Can a person like that able to defend the suspicions, let alone the charges, heaped on him? Its great that there is a lawyer to act pro bono for him. That won't help much if the suspect himself is mentally incapable of disproving any "evidence" shown against him. Has he been caught on camera?

There could be more than one of such person around. You can put in as many cameras as you want. They wouldn't know what those things are for. Instead of catching them, its better to reduce or even completely eliminate stray animals in proper ways.

This reminded me of a TV documentary about a mentally unbalanced person who was charged for the murder of a resident in the common bathroom of a condo named Westpeak. His family was worried sick. Can't remember if he too had a lawyer acting for him pro bono, but as the case dragged on and further investigations were carried out, he was exonerated of the crime.

The root cause of cruelty to stray animals like cats and dogs is unidentifiable and irresponsible ownership. While those animal lovers cried foul over those dead cats, they should also ask themselves why is it that there not a single owner who had come forward to claim those dead animals? These are abandoned animals or bred by abandoned animals. Increasing the severity of the punishment for harming strays is only dealing with the effect. By doing that, you are not being kind to animals, only more cruel towards you fellow human beings. When are we going to legislate and enforce identifiable and responsible ownership of animals? This is especially important when animals are also being traded as a commodity.

[treat your fellow humans better than animals]

Post by f***@gmail.com
The authority has caught a suspect who has the mentality of a kid and can only give monosyllabic answers to questions. Can a person like that able to defend the suspicions, let alone the charges, heaped on him? Its great that there is a lawyer to act pro bono for him. That won't help much if the suspect himself is mentally incapable of disproving any "evidence" shown against him. Has he been caught on camera?
There could be more than one of such person around. You can put in as many cameras as you want. They wouldn't know what those things are for. Instead of catching them, its better to reduce or even completely eliminate stray animals in proper ways.
This reminded me of a TV documentary about a mentally unbalanced person who was charged for the murder of a resident in the common bathroom of a condo named Westpeak. His family was worried sick. Can't remember if he too had a lawyer acting for him pro bono, but as the case dragged on and further investigations were carried out, he was exonerated of the crime.
The root cause of cruelty to stray animals like cats and dogs is unidentifiable and irresponsible ownership. While those animal lovers cried foul over those dead cats, they should also ask themselves why is it that there not a single owner who had come forward to claim those dead animals? These are abandoned animals or bred by abandoned animals. Increasing the severity of the punishment for harming strays is only dealing with the effect. By doing that, you are not being kind to animals, only more cruel towards you fellow human beings. When are we going to legislate and enforce identifiable and responsible ownership of animals? This is especially important when animals are also being traded as a commodity.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/man-charged-with-abusing-killing-cat-in-tampines/3363730.html

Same old story, same old way of reporting it. Why is it that such case is always reported without the reason(s) for the culprit's action? It seems that the human commit the crime without any any reason or rhyme. Is that true? Has the animal been a nuisance to the human, like sneaking into his home to steal food or dirty up the place?

The most important piece of the whole episode is always left unasked. Who does that animal belong to? Most likely its a stray. There in lies the root of the problem. Irresponsible animal ownership leads to increasing number of stray animals which lead to increasing cases of animals intruding into human living quarters which leads to their mistreatment by humans which leads to more humans being punished (also a mistreatment) under the law. As long as there is no law to curb irresponsible animal ownership, both animals and humans will continue to be mistreated, the former by the latter and the latter by their own fellow humans, using human-made laws. Stupid humanity!

[dansk]

Those ministers and civil service elites thought that they have to comply to
the international activists of wishes of not to cull those wild animals that
had multiplied many times over the last 20 years in their heartlands and
even on trees and building ledges in city center.

Post by f***@gmail.com
The authority has caught a suspect who has the mentality of a kid and can
only give monosyllabic answers to questions. Can a person like that able
to defend the suspicions, let alone the charges, heaped on him? Its great
that there is a lawyer to act pro bono for him. That won't help much if
the suspect himself is mentally incapable of disproving any "evidence"
shown against him. Has he been caught on camera?
There could be more than one of such person around. You can put in as many
cameras as you want. They wouldn't know what those things are for. Instead
of catching them, its better to reduce or even completely eliminate stray
animals in proper ways.
This reminded me of a TV documentary about a mentally unbalanced person
who was charged for the murder of a resident in the common bathroom of a
condo named Westpeak. His family was worried sick. Can't remember if he
too had a lawyer acting for him pro bono, but as the case dragged on and
further investigations were carried out, he was exonerated of the crime.
The root cause of cruelty to stray animals like cats and dogs is
unidentifiable and irresponsible ownership. While those animal lovers
cried foul over those dead cats, they should also ask themselves why is it
that there not a single owner who had come forward to claim those dead
animals? These are abandoned animals or bred by abandoned animals.
Increasing the severity of the punishment for harming strays is only
dealing with the effect. By doing that, you are not being kind to animals,
only more cruel towards you fellow human beings. When are we going to
legislate and enforce identifiable and responsible ownership of animals?
This is especially important when animals are also being traded as a
commodity.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/man-charged-with-abusing-killing-cat-in-tampines/3363730.html

Same old story, same old way of reporting it. Why is it that such case is
always reported without the reason(s) for the culprit's action? It seems
that the human commit the crime without any any reason or rhyme. Is that
true? Has the animal been a nuisance to the human, like sneaking into his
home to steal food or dirty up the place?

The most important piece of the whole episode is always left unasked. Who
does that animal belong to? Most likely its a stray. There in lies the root
of the problem. Irresponsible animal ownership leads to increasing number of
stray animals which lead to increasing cases of animals intruding into human
living quarters which leads to their mistreatment by humans which leads to
more humans being punished (also a mistreatment) under the law. As long as
there is no law to curb irresponsible animal ownership, both animals and
humans will continue to be mistreated, the former by the latter and the
latter by their own fellow humans, using human-made laws. Stupid humanity!

[Quinne]

What is the gist of your message here. Is it just a rant or just lamenting
of a piece here/.

There should a gist of the issue here that should be summarized with clear
focus of clarity of how you wish to do or suggest.


wrote in message news:402b5bc0-0888-4873-bbd1-***@googlegroups.com...

Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC,
those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for
their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one
dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe.
Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings
and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any
way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lèse Majesté.

The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the worsening
problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however
minor, are reported in screaming headlines.

The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all
over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common sight in
common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You cannot eat
in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover food to
have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also
flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food.
Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open
area is worse. It has become a health hazard.

The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings
in order to be kind to animals?

[m***@gmail.com]

Post by Quinne
What is the gist of your message here. Is it just a rant or just lamenting
of a piece here/.
There should a gist of the issue here that should be summarized with clear
focus of clarity of how you wish to do or suggest.
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC,
those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for
their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one
dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe.
Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings
and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any
way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lčse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the worsening
problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however
minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all
over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common sight in
common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You cannot eat
in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover food to
have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also
flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food.
Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open
area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings
in order to be kind to animals?

The gist of the issue is in the subject heading. The worry is laws are being made to protect animals against humans but not the other way round.

[marico]

Culling is absolutely needed in SG if there is an over-population of the
animals.

Like using the numbers of COEs to curb the over-population of vehicles in
SG, there should also be similar COE to calculate how many animals per
square km area be allowed to roam in SG.

Every country curb birds to prevent contagious avian diseases. There is a
need to balance between curbing of animals and allowing a certain quantity
of birds in SG to roam and to also prevent jumping of host.

The best for SG is to cull the over-population of mynah and crows so that
they do not hover and defecate around coffee shops and hawker centres.

SG should increase other variety of chirping birds that stay on tree
branches and not on the grounds like what the mynah and crow did.

SG can grow and breed a range of nice variety of small birds that sit on
trees and branches, eating of worms and small insects as foods and not
eating of human foods on tables.

Post by Quinne
What is the gist of your message here. Is it just a rant or just lamenting
of a piece here/.
There should a gist of the issue here that should be summarized with clear
focus of clarity of how you wish to do or suggest.
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC,
those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for
their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one
dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe.
Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings
and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any
way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lčse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the worsening
problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however
minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all
over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common sight in
common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You cannot eat
in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover food to
have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also
flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food.
Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open
area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings
in order to be kind to animals?

The gist of the issue is in the subject heading. The worry is laws are being
made to protect animals against humans but not the other way round.

[marico]

Culling is necessary in SG if there is an over-population of the
animals.

It is needed to curb them to stop over-crowding of spaces with people at
hawker centres and coffee shops.

Like using the numbers of COEs to curb the over-population of vehicles in
SG, there should also be similar COE to calculate how many animals per
square km area be allowed to roam in SG.

Every country curb birds to prevent contagious avian diseases. There is a
need to balance between curbing of animals and allowing a certain quantity
of birds in SG to roam and to also prevent jumping of host.

The best for SG is to cull the over-population of mynah and crows so that
they do not hover and defecate around coffee shops and hawker centres.

SG should increase other variety of chirping birds that stay on tree
branches and not on the grounds like what the mynah and crow did.

SG can grow and breed a range of nice variety of small birds that sit on
trees and branches, eating of worms and small insects as foods and not
eating of human foods on tables.

Post by Quinne
What is the gist of your message here. Is it just a rant or just lamenting
of a piece here/.
There should a gist of the issue here that should be summarized with clear
focus of clarity of how you wish to do or suggest.
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC,
those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for
their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one
dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe.
Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings
and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any
way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lčse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the worsening
problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however
minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all
over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common sight in
common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You cannot eat
in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover food to
have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also
flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food.
Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open
area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings
in order to be kind to animals?

The gist of the issue is in the subject heading. The worry is laws are being
made to protect animals against humans but not the other way round.

[kill 'em monkeys]

Post by marico
Culling is necessary in SG if there is an over-population of the
animals.
It is needed to curb them to stop over-crowding of spaces with people at
hawker centres and coffee shops.
Like using the numbers of COEs to curb the over-population of vehicles in
SG, there should also be similar COE to calculate how many animals per
square km area be allowed to roam in SG.
Every country curb birds to prevent contagious avian diseases. There is a
need to balance between curbing of animals and allowing a certain quantity
of birds in SG to roam and to also prevent jumping of host.
The best for SG is to cull the over-population of mynah and crows so that
they do not hover and defecate around coffee shops and hawker centres.
SG should increase other variety of chirping birds that stay on tree
branches and not on the grounds like what the mynah and crow did.
SG can grow and breed a range of nice variety of small birds that sit on
trees and branches, eating of worms and small insects as foods and not
eating of human foods on tables.

Post by Quinne
What is the gist of your message here. Is it just a rant or just lamenting
of a piece here/.
There should a gist of the issue here that should be summarized with clear
focus of clarity of how you wish to do or suggest.
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC,
those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for
their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one
dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe.
Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings
and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any
way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lčse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the worsening
problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however
minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all
over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common sight in
common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You cannot eat
in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover food to
have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also
flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food.
Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open
area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings
in order to be kind to animals?

The gist of the issue is in the subject heading. The worry is laws are being
made to protect animals against humans but not the other way round.

People at Bukit Panjang have recently become victims of attacks by wild monkeys. MP Louis Ng, who is also the chief of ACRES, expresses no sympathy for the humans. Instead the blame is placed on the humans, for feeding the animals. Humans are advised how not to provoke the monkeys. In this situation, we would expect him to come up with a good solution to the problem.

Under his direction, the monkeys are to be caught in the least hurting way possible. After that, they will be rehabed and relocated to somewhere else. This wastes a lot of resources but does not solve the problem. It only moves the problem to somewhere else. These animals ought to be killed. The Town Council should advise the people to 'Kill them on sight'. The authority should also go to the Central Catchment Reserve nearby to cull the monkeys. The appearance of the wild animals in human inhabited area is usually a sign of overpopulation in the animals' natural habitat.

The press continues to promote the idea of bringing wilderness closer to the people with endearing stories about the otters and other wild animals found in our midst. These are getting closer to human habitats. One day they too will attack humans. Its only a matter of time.

A new concept is being promoted for the living environment in Singapore where the city and wilderness meld into one. This is a stupid concept. Whether you call it a Garden in a City or City in a Garden, a garden or city is no place where humans are attacked by wild animals. That only happens in a jungle. Only fools would think of melding a concrete jungle with a real jungle or vice versa.

Its beginning to show. Wild boars charging at people. Monkeys bite people. Crows pecked on the heads of people, turning them bloody. Birds of all sorts fluttering about and scavenging for food in places where humans are having meals. Stray dogs and cats abound. Rats running around. Is this the type of city we want to live in?

[The_Inquirer]

Post by kill 'em monkeys

Post by marico
Culling is necessary in SG if there is an over-population of the
animals.
It is needed to curb them to stop over-crowding of spaces with people at
hawker centres and coffee shops.
Like using the numbers of COEs to curb the over-population of vehicles in
SG, there should also be similar COE to calculate how many animals per
square km area be allowed to roam in SG.
Every country curb birds to prevent contagious avian diseases. There is a
need to balance between curbing of animals and allowing a certain quantity
of birds in SG to roam and to also prevent jumping of host.
The best for SG is to cull the over-population of mynah and crows so that
they do not hover and defecate around coffee shops and hawker centres.
SG should increase other variety of chirping birds that stay on tree
branches and not on the grounds like what the mynah and crow did.
SG can grow and breed a range of nice variety of small birds that sit on
trees and branches, eating of worms and small insects as foods and not
eating of human foods on tables.

Post by Quinne
What is the gist of your message here. Is it just a rant or just lamenting
of a piece here/.
There should a gist of the issue here that should be summarized with clear
focus of clarity of how you wish to do or suggest.
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC,
those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for
their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one
dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe.
Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings
and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any
way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lčse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the worsening
problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however
minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all
over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common sight in
common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You cannot eat
in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover food to
have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also
flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food.
Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open
area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings
in order to be kind to animals?

The gist of the issue is in the subject heading. The worry is laws are being
made to protect animals against humans but not the other way round.

People at Bukit Panjang have recently become victims of attacks by wild monkeys. MP Louis Ng, who is also the chief of ACRES, expresses no sympathy for the humans. Instead the blame is placed on the humans, for feeding the animals. Humans are advised how not to provoke the monkeys. In this situation, we would expect him to come up with a good solution to the problem.
Under his direction, the monkeys are to be caught in the least hurting way possible. After that, they will be rehabed and relocated to somewhere else. This wastes a lot of resources but does not solve the problem. It only moves the problem to somewhere else. These animals ought to be killed.

why are you so cruel? don't you have a heart?

after all, since we evolved from them, should you respect your
ancestors? where is your filial pie-tee?



The Town Council should advise the people to 'Kill them on sight'. The
authority should also go to the Central Catchment Reserve nearby to cull
the monkeys. The appearance of the wild animals in human inhabited area
is usually a sign of overpopulation in the animals' natural habitat.

Post by kill 'em monkeys
The press continues to promote the idea of bringing wilderness closer to the people with endearing stories about the otters and other wild animals found in our midst. These are getting closer to human habitats. One day they too will attack humans. Its only a matter of time.
A new concept is being promoted for the living environment in Singapore where the city and wilderness meld into one. This is a stupid concept. Whether you call it a Garden in a City or City in a Garden, a garden or city is no place where humans are attacked by wild animals. That only happens in a jungle. Only fools would think of melding a concrete jungle with a real jungle or vice versa.
Its beginning to show. Wild boars charging at people. Monkeys bite people. Crows pecked on the heads of people, turning them bloody. Birds of all sorts fluttering about and scavenging for food in places where humans are having meals. Stray dogs and cats abound. Rats running around. Is this the type of city we want to live in?

[m***@gmail.com]

You are a typical kind fool, all heart and no head.

You r the one being cruel, towards yr fellow human beings. To you, it is alright that those monkeys continue to harm humans.

Would you volunteer to have the monkeys live with you and not mind that they destroy yr properties and harm you and yr families members?

Or are you being kind to the monkeys only because they are causing harm to others?

[The_Inquirer]

Post by m***@gmail.com
You are a typical kind fool, all heart and no head.
You r the one being cruel, towards yr fellow human beings. To you, it is alright that those monkeys continue to harm humans.
Would you volunteer to have the monkeys live with you and not mind that they destroy yr properties and harm you and yr families members?
Or are you being kind to the monkeys only because they are causing harm to others?

hiyah! I was only asking questions. so you believe in Evilution Theory?

[marico]

Those animal rights still think it is still early to curb of the monkeys
even when monkeys had now gone into high-rise flats in Bukit Panjang looking
for foods, and have had attacked people in the flat, where in one case the
old lady was sleeping in her room and she was scratched on her forearm when
attacked by a monkey, and she was traumatized.

There were also of two others were also attacked on the ground. There was
also an interview with a virologist which she explained that there can be
dangerous to human health when virus transmission was made to human being
from monkeys when their teeth have many viruses and bacteria that could
transmit to human beings.

Naturally, given heavy cost of ward and costly medical care in SG, the
virus-transmission monkeys must be curbed immediately. No one wants to pay
their own medical bill caused by the garmen of not curbing the attacking
voracious monkeys.

If human being can be previously were curbed to stop at two, why cant these
animals be curbed too. When their monkey population begun to enter into the
mainstream of human lives in their high-rise flats, it showed they have
adapted to their freedom of roaming and attacking of human beings.

By their entering of flats, it showed that these monkeys have
"instinctively" knew that they were given a lot of leeway of "unworried"
protections by their stupid "human rights" animal people over and on their
very own people, for which are prevented to take counter action to attacking
back at them.

These monkeys know from instincts of animal rights becomes their rights to
become more bolds and more unafraid of human beings at all. This is the
dilemma of this pathetic situation of animal stray controls in Singapore.

Post by marico
Culling is necessary in SG if there is an over-population of the
animals.
It is needed to curb them to stop over-crowding of spaces with people at
hawker centres and coffee shops.
Like using the numbers of COEs to curb the over-population of vehicles in
SG, there should also be similar COE to calculate how many animals per
square km area be allowed to roam in SG.
Every country curb birds to prevent contagious avian diseases. There is a
need to balance between curbing of animals and allowing a certain quantity
of birds in SG to roam and to also prevent jumping of host.
The best for SG is to cull the over-population of mynah and crows so that
they do not hover and defecate around coffee shops and hawker centres.
SG should increase other variety of chirping birds that stay on tree
branches and not on the grounds like what the mynah and crow did.
SG can grow and breed a range of nice variety of small birds that sit on
trees and branches, eating of worms and small insects as foods and not
eating of human foods on tables.

Post by Quinne
What is the gist of your message here. Is it just a rant or just lamenting
of a piece here/.
There should a gist of the issue here that should be summarized with clear
focus of clarity of how you wish to do or suggest.
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC,
those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for
their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one
dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe.
Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings
and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any
way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lčse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the worsening
problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however
minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all
over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common sight in
common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You cannot eat
in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover food to
have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also
flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food.
Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open
area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings
in order to be kind to animals?

The gist of the issue is in the subject heading. The worry is laws are being
made to protect animals against humans but not the other way round.

People at Bukit Panjang have recently become victims of attacks by wild
monkeys. MP Louis Ng, who is also the chief of ACRES, expresses no sympathy
for the humans. Instead the blame is placed on the humans, for feeding the
animals. Humans are advised how not to provoke the monkeys. In this
situation, we would expect him to come up with a good solution to the
problem.

Under his direction, the monkeys are to be caught in the least hurting way
possible. After that, they will be rehabed and relocated to somewhere else.
This wastes a lot of resources but does not solve the problem. It only moves
the problem to somewhere else. These animals ought to be killed. The Town
Council should advise the people to 'Kill them on sight'. The authority
should also go to the Central Catchment Reserve nearby to cull the monkeys.
The appearance of the wild animals in human inhabited area is usually a sign
of overpopulation in the animals' natural habitat.

The press continues to promote the idea of bringing wilderness closer to the
people with endearing stories about the otters and other wild animals found
in our midst. These are getting closer to human habitats. One day they too
will attack humans. Its only a matter of time.

A new concept is being promoted for the living environment in Singapore
where the city and wilderness meld into one. This is a stupid concept.
Whether you call it a Garden in a City or City in a Garden, a garden or city
is no place where humans are attacked by wild animals. That only happens in
a jungle. Only fools would think of melding a concrete jungle with a real
jungle or vice versa.

Its beginning to show. Wild boars charging at people. Monkeys bite people.
Crows pecked on the heads of people, turning them bloody. Birds of all sorts
fluttering about and scavenging for food in places where humans are having
meals. Stray dogs and cats abound. Rats running around. Is this the type of
city we want to live in?

---
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[marico]

Those animal rights still think it is still early to curb of the monkeys
even when monkeys had now gone into high-rise flats in Bukit Panjang looking
for foods, and have had attacked people in the flat, where in one case the
old lady was sleeping in her room and she was scratched on her forearm when
attacked by a monkey, and she was traumatized.

There were also of two others were also attacked on the ground. There was
also an interview with a virologist which she explained that there can be
dangerous to human health when virus transmission was made to human being
from monkeys when their teeth have many viruses and bacteria that could
transmit to human beings.

Naturally, given heavy cost of ward and costly medical care in SG, the
virus-transmission monkeys must be curbed immediately. No one wants to pay
their own medical bill caused by the garmen of not curbing the attacking
voracious monkeys.

If human being can be previously were curbed to stop at two, why cant these
animals be curbed too. When their monkey population begun to enter into the
mainstream of human lives in their high-rise flats, it showed they have
adapted to their freedom of roaming and attacking of human beings.

By their entering of flats, it showed that these monkeys have
"instinctively" knew that they were given a lot of leeway of "unworried"
protections by their stupid "human rights" animal people over and on their
very own people, for which are prevented to take counter action to attacking
back at them.

These monkeys know from instincts of animal rights becomes their rights to
become more bolds and more unafraid of human beings at all. This is the
dilemma of this pathetic situation of animal stray controls in Singapore.

Post by marico
Culling is necessary in SG if there is an over-population of the
animals.
It is needed to curb them to stop over-crowding of spaces with people at
hawker centres and coffee shops.
Like using the numbers of COEs to curb the over-population of vehicles in
SG, there should also be similar COE to calculate how many animals per
square km area be allowed to roam in SG.
Every country curb birds to prevent contagious avian diseases. There is a
need to balance between curbing of animals and allowing a certain quantity
of birds in SG to roam and to also prevent jumping of host.
The best for SG is to cull the over-population of mynah and crows so that
they do not hover and defecate around coffee shops and hawker centres.
SG should increase other variety of chirping birds that stay on tree
branches and not on the grounds like what the mynah and crow did.
SG can grow and breed a range of nice variety of small birds that sit on
trees and branches, eating of worms and small insects as foods and not
eating of human foods on tables.

Post by Quinne
What is the gist of your message here. Is it just a rant or just lamenting
of a piece here/.
There should a gist of the issue here that should be summarized with clear
focus of clarity of how you wish to do or suggest.
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC,
those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for
their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one
dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe.
Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings
and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any
way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lčse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the worsening
problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however
minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all
over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common sight in
common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You cannot eat
in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover food to
have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also
flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food.
Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open
area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings
in order to be kind to animals?

The gist of the issue is in the subject heading. The worry is laws are being
made to protect animals against humans but not the other way round.

People at Bukit Panjang have recently become victims of attacks by wild
monkeys. MP Louis Ng, who is also the chief of ACRES, expresses no sympathy
for the humans. Instead the blame is placed on the humans, for feeding the
animals. Humans are advised how not to provoke the monkeys. In this
situation, we would expect him to come up with a good solution to the
problem.

Under his direction, the monkeys are to be caught in the least hurting way
possible. After that, they will be rehabed and relocated to somewhere else.
This wastes a lot of resources but does not solve the problem. It only moves
the problem to somewhere else. These animals ought to be killed. The Town
Council should advise the people to 'Kill them on sight'. The authority
should also go to the Central Catchment Reserve nearby to cull the monkeys.
The appearance of the wild animals in human inhabited area is usually a sign
of overpopulation in the animals' natural habitat.

The press continues to promote the idea of bringing wilderness closer to the
people with endearing stories about the otters and other wild animals found
in our midst. These are getting closer to human habitats. One day they too
will attack humans. Its only a matter of time.

A new concept is being promoted for the living environment in Singapore
where the city and wilderness meld into one. This is a stupid concept.
Whether you call it a Garden in a City or City in a Garden, a garden or city
is no place where humans are attacked by wild animals. That only happens in
a jungle. Only fools would think of melding a concrete jungle with a real
jungle or vice versa.

Its beginning to show. Wild boars charging at people. Monkeys bite people.
Crows pecked on the heads of people, turning them bloody. Birds of all sorts
fluttering about and scavenging for food in places where humans are having
meals. Stray dogs and cats abound. Rats running around. Is this the type of
city we want to live in?

---
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[its getting worse]

Post by marico
Those animal rights still think it is still early to curb of the monkeys
even when monkeys had now gone into high-rise flats in Bukit Panjang looking
for foods, and have had attacked people in the flat, where in one case the
old lady was sleeping in her room and she was scratched on her forearm when
attacked by a monkey, and she was traumatized.
There were also of two others were also attacked on the ground. There was
also an interview with a virologist which she explained that there can be
dangerous to human health when virus transmission was made to human being
from monkeys when their teeth have many viruses and bacteria that could
transmit to human beings.
Naturally, given heavy cost of ward and costly medical care in SG, the
virus-transmission monkeys must be curbed immediately. No one wants to pay
their own medical bill caused by the garmen of not curbing the attacking
voracious monkeys.
If human being can be previously were curbed to stop at two, why cant these
animals be curbed too. When their monkey population begun to enter into the
mainstream of human lives in their high-rise flats, it showed they have
adapted to their freedom of roaming and attacking of human beings.
By their entering of flats, it showed that these monkeys have
"instinctively" knew that they were given a lot of leeway of "unworried"
protections by their stupid "human rights" animal people over and on their
very own people, for which are prevented to take counter action to attacking
back at them.
These monkeys know from instincts of animal rights becomes their rights to
become more bolds and more unafraid of human beings at all. This is the
dilemma of this pathetic situation of animal stray controls in Singapore.

Post by marico
Culling is necessary in SG if there is an over-population of the
animals.
It is needed to curb them to stop over-crowding of spaces with people at
hawker centres and coffee shops.
Like using the numbers of COEs to curb the over-population of vehicles in
SG, there should also be similar COE to calculate how many animals per
square km area be allowed to roam in SG.
Every country curb birds to prevent contagious avian diseases. There is a
need to balance between curbing of animals and allowing a certain quantity
of birds in SG to roam and to also prevent jumping of host.
The best for SG is to cull the over-population of mynah and crows so that
they do not hover and defecate around coffee shops and hawker centres.
SG should increase other variety of chirping birds that stay on tree
branches and not on the grounds like what the mynah and crow did.
SG can grow and breed a range of nice variety of small birds that sit on
trees and branches, eating of worms and small insects as foods and not
eating of human foods on tables.

Post by Quinne
What is the gist of your message here. Is it just a rant or just lamenting
of a piece here/.
There should a gist of the issue here that should be summarized with clear
focus of clarity of how you wish to do or suggest.
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC,
those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for
their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one
dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe.
Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings
and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any
way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lčse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the worsening
problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however
minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all
over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common sight in
common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You cannot eat
in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover food to
have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also
flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food.
Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open
area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings
in order to be kind to animals?

The gist of the issue is in the subject heading. The worry is laws are being
made to protect animals against humans but not the other way round.

People at Bukit Panjang have recently become victims of attacks by wild
monkeys. MP Louis Ng, who is also the chief of ACRES, expresses no sympathy
for the humans. Instead the blame is placed on the humans, for feeding the
animals. Humans are advised how not to provoke the monkeys. In this
situation, we would expect him to come up with a good solution to the
problem.
Under his direction, the monkeys are to be caught in the least hurting way
possible. After that, they will be rehabed and relocated to somewhere else.
This wastes a lot of resources but does not solve the problem. It only moves
the problem to somewhere else. These animals ought to be killed. The Town
Council should advise the people to 'Kill them on sight'. The authority
should also go to the Central Catchment Reserve nearby to cull the monkeys.
The appearance of the wild animals in human inhabited area is usually a sign
of overpopulation in the animals' natural habitat.
The press continues to promote the idea of bringing wilderness closer to the
people with endearing stories about the otters and other wild animals found
in our midst. These are getting closer to human habitats. One day they too
will attack humans. Its only a matter of time.
A new concept is being promoted for the living environment in Singapore
where the city and wilderness meld into one. This is a stupid concept.
Whether you call it a Garden in a City or City in a Garden, a garden or city
is no place where humans are attacked by wild animals. That only happens in
a jungle. Only fools would think of melding a concrete jungle with a real
jungle or vice versa.
Its beginning to show. Wild boars charging at people. Monkeys bite people.
Crows pecked on the heads of people, turning them bloody. Birds of all sorts
fluttering about and scavenging for food in places where humans are having
meals. Stray dogs and cats abound. Rats running around. Is this the type of
city we want to live in?
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The problems of animals among us are getting worse. Even enclosed and air-conditioned food centers have birds pecking at food on the floor or fluttering about. This is an obvious health hazard. They dirty the food that the public consume. Where is NEA?

Pigeons, mynahs, sparrows, crows, etc. are everywhere. They are flying about, pecking at food or resting, in flocks. They are nesting at ledges and rooftops of public and private properties and filling up these places with their droppings. Some have become more aggressive. There have been rising cases of attacks on humans by crows, turning the heads of humans into bloody mess. There are so many stray dogs and cats that they cannot avoid bumping into each other and the cats ended up being killed by the dogs. In these instances, animal lovers would first suspect humans to be the culprits. Cats are intruding into the homes of unsuspecting residents. Police has to be called to deal with a ferocious cat which intruded into someone's home.

When it comes to environmental protection, the finger only points at the waste that humans produced. Animals and the waste that they produce are damaging the living environmental for humans too. They lower the quality of our living environment and endanger public safety and health.


Animals continue to be treated better than humans. Police dogs are going to be well taken care of after their retirements. They will be properly housed and fed. They will be allowed in HDB flats. Before this, bigger dogs are also allowed in HDB flats. For goodness sake, the flats are getting smaller and being packed closer together in a block. It is already a stressful living environment. Do we have to share it with animals too? It will be worsen by dogs barking and urinating and defecating about.
What about the humans who retire from the SPF? Do the SPF ensure that they will not suffer in their twilight years after sacrificing a large part of their lives to keep Singapore safe?


The efforts to psyche the people to accept more animals into their midst continue, with increasing intensity of media bombardment. From previews, it seems we are going to be bombarded with TV serials showing the loving and cute nature of animals from around the world, especially dogs. There is no attempt to present a balanced view. There is nothing in the media to alert the public to the ferocious and merciless nature of animals. News of animals attacking humans are only briefly covered, if ever, and they are only local cases. Google for horrible real life stories about dogs with these words: dog attacks kills baby

Here's the first one from a long list:
http://www.wfmynews2.com/news/nation/dog-attacks-kills-3-week-old-baby/443249577

Even supposedly harmless and helpful dogs can become ferocious attacker.
http://kval.com/politics/nation-and-world/emotional-support-dog-bites-passenger-boarding-flight


Calling for the culling of strays are referred to as "the usual response of fear and ignorance by a minority of people", as one academic in his ivory tower, Senior lecturer at the department of biological sciences at the National University of Singapore, N. Sivasothi, put it.

Its going to get worse as more Singaporeans adopt his kind of attitude and this nation deteriorates into one of kind-hearted fools.

[The_Inquirer]

Post by its getting worse
Pigeons, mynahs, sparrows, crows, etc. are everywhere. They are flying about, pecking at food or resting, in flocks. They are nesting at ledges and rooftops of public and private properties and filling up these places with their droppings. Some have become more aggressive. There have been rising cases of attacks on humans by crows, turning the heads of humans into bloody mess. There are so many stray dogs and cats that they cannot avoid bumping into each other and the cats ended up being killed by the dogs. In these instances, animal lovers would first suspect humans to be the culprits. Cats are intruding into the homes of unsuspecting residents. Police has to be called to deal with a ferocious cat which intruded into someone's home.

humans have human rights, so don't you think birds have bird rights?

God's commandment "be fruitful and multiply" is given for all living
things, or only for human beans?

[worsenworse]

Post by its getting worse

Post by marico
Those animal rights still think it is still early to curb of the monkeys
even when monkeys had now gone into high-rise flats in Bukit Panjang looking
for foods, and have had attacked people in the flat, where in one case the
old lady was sleeping in her room and she was scratched on her forearm when
attacked by a monkey, and she was traumatized.
There were also of two others were also attacked on the ground. There was
also an interview with a virologist which she explained that there can be
dangerous to human health when virus transmission was made to human being
from monkeys when their teeth have many viruses and bacteria that could
transmit to human beings.
Naturally, given heavy cost of ward and costly medical care in SG, the
virus-transmission monkeys must be curbed immediately. No one wants to pay
their own medical bill caused by the garmen of not curbing the attacking
voracious monkeys.
If human being can be previously were curbed to stop at two, why cant these
animals be curbed too. When their monkey population begun to enter into the
mainstream of human lives in their high-rise flats, it showed they have
adapted to their freedom of roaming and attacking of human beings.
By their entering of flats, it showed that these monkeys have
"instinctively" knew that they were given a lot of leeway of "unworried"
protections by their stupid "human rights" animal people over and on their
very own people, for which are prevented to take counter action to attacking
back at them.
These monkeys know from instincts of animal rights becomes their rights to
become more bolds and more unafraid of human beings at all. This is the
dilemma of this pathetic situation of animal stray controls in Singapore.

Post by marico
Culling is necessary in SG if there is an over-population of the
animals.
It is needed to curb them to stop over-crowding of spaces with people at
hawker centres and coffee shops.
Like using the numbers of COEs to curb the over-population of vehicles in
SG, there should also be similar COE to calculate how many animals per
square km area be allowed to roam in SG.
Every country curb birds to prevent contagious avian diseases. There is a
need to balance between curbing of animals and allowing a certain quantity
of birds in SG to roam and to also prevent jumping of host.
The best for SG is to cull the over-population of mynah and crows so that
they do not hover and defecate around coffee shops and hawker centres.
SG should increase other variety of chirping birds that stay on tree
branches and not on the grounds like what the mynah and crow did.
SG can grow and breed a range of nice variety of small birds that sit on
trees and branches, eating of worms and small insects as foods and not
eating of human foods on tables.

Post by Quinne
What is the gist of your message here. Is it just a rant or just lamenting
of a piece here/.
There should a gist of the issue here that should be summarized with clear
focus of clarity of how you wish to do or suggest.
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC,
those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for
their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one
dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe.
Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings
and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any
way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lčse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the worsening
problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however
minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all
over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common sight in
common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You cannot eat
in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover food to
have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also
flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food.
Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open
area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings
in order to be kind to animals?

The gist of the issue is in the subject heading. The worry is laws are being
made to protect animals against humans but not the other way round.

People at Bukit Panjang have recently become victims of attacks by wild
monkeys. MP Louis Ng, who is also the chief of ACRES, expresses no sympathy
for the humans. Instead the blame is placed on the humans, for feeding the
animals. Humans are advised how not to provoke the monkeys. In this
situation, we would expect him to come up with a good solution to the
problem.
Under his direction, the monkeys are to be caught in the least hurting way
possible. After that, they will be rehabed and relocated to somewhere else.
This wastes a lot of resources but does not solve the problem. It only moves
the problem to somewhere else. These animals ought to be killed. The Town
Council should advise the people to 'Kill them on sight'. The authority
should also go to the Central Catchment Reserve nearby to cull the monkeys.
The appearance of the wild animals in human inhabited area is usually a sign
of overpopulation in the animals' natural habitat.
The press continues to promote the idea of bringing wilderness closer to the
people with endearing stories about the otters and other wild animals found
in our midst. These are getting closer to human habitats. One day they too
will attack humans. Its only a matter of time.
A new concept is being promoted for the living environment in Singapore
where the city and wilderness meld into one. This is a stupid concept.
Whether you call it a Garden in a City or City in a Garden, a garden or city
is no place where humans are attacked by wild animals. That only happens in
a jungle. Only fools would think of melding a concrete jungle with a real
jungle or vice versa.
Its beginning to show. Wild boars charging at people. Monkeys bite people.
Crows pecked on the heads of people, turning them bloody. Birds of all sorts
fluttering about and scavenging for food in places where humans are having
meals. Stray dogs and cats abound. Rats running around. Is this the type of
city we want to live in?
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The problems of animals among us are getting worse. Even enclosed and air-conditioned food centers have birds pecking at food on the floor or fluttering about. This is an obvious health hazard. They dirty the food that the public consume. Where is NEA?
Pigeons, mynahs, sparrows, crows, etc. are everywhere. They are flying about, pecking at food or resting, in flocks. They are nesting at ledges and rooftops of public and private properties and filling up these places with their droppings. Some have become more aggressive. There have been rising cases of attacks on humans by crows, turning the heads of humans into bloody mess. There are so many stray dogs and cats that they cannot avoid bumping into each other and the cats ended up being killed by the dogs. In these instances, animal lovers would first suspect humans to be the culprits. Cats are intruding into the homes of unsuspecting residents. Police has to be called to deal with a ferocious cat which intruded into someone's home.
When it comes to environmental protection, the finger only points at the waste that humans produced. Animals and the waste that they produce are damaging the living environmental for humans too. They lower the quality of our living environment and endanger public safety and health.
Animals continue to be treated better than humans. Police dogs are going to be well taken care of after their retirements. They will be properly housed and fed. They will be allowed in HDB flats. Before this, bigger dogs are also allowed in HDB flats. For goodness sake, the flats are getting smaller and being packed closer together in a block. It is already a stressful living environment. Do we have to share it with animals too? It will be worsen by dogs barking and urinating and defecating about.
What about the humans who retire from the SPF? Do the SPF ensure that they will not suffer in their twilight years after sacrificing a large part of their lives to keep Singapore safe?
The efforts to psyche the people to accept more animals into their midst continue, with increasing intensity of media bombardment. From previews, it seems we are going to be bombarded with TV serials showing the loving and cute nature of animals from around the world, especially dogs. There is no attempt to present a balanced view. There is nothing in the media to alert the public to the ferocious and merciless nature of animals. News of animals attacking humans are only briefly covered, if ever, and they are only local cases. Google for horrible real life stories about dogs with these words: dog attacks kills baby
http://www.wfmynews2.com/news/nation/dog-attacks-kills-3-week-old-baby/443249577
Even supposedly harmless and helpful dogs can become ferocious attacker.
http://kval.com/politics/nation-and-world/emotional-support-dog-bites-passenger-boarding-flight
Calling for the culling of strays are referred to as "the usual response of fear and ignorance by a minority of people", as one academic in his ivory tower, Senior lecturer at the department of biological sciences at the National University of Singapore, N. Sivasothi, put it.
Its going to get worse as more Singaporeans adopt his kind of attitude and this nation deteriorates into one of kind-hearted fools.

Yesterday, a man was hurt by a wild boar along Hillview Road, in the Bukit Gombak neighborhood. If this is bad, the reports by the mainstream media make it worse. They convey to the public that this is a non-issue. If it is to be believed, it seems everyone that they interviewed took it lightly. One even reminded the authority not to overact by culling the boars.

This is not the first case. Boars have been involved in accidents with vehicles along AYE and Lentor Ave. Boars got killed, humans got hurt. Even in this latest case along Hillview Road, it was not the first time that a wild boar were encountered in the neighborhood. Earlier on, a wild boar was found grazing on the grass stretch beside Bukit Batok Ave 6, another one in the Bukit Batok Nature Park, both areas being within walking distance from Hillview Road. It could be the same boar.

We have experienced an increasing cases of wild animals appearing in human populated areas. Residents and their homes being harassed by wild monkeys, pigeons defecating all over the places, stray dogs and cats roaming around. In the cases involving wild boars, the encounters are detrimental to both. The animals get killed, properties damaged and humans end up being hurt. In such cases, who bears the financial costs? The unfortunate victims. In further insult to the victims, NGOs like ACRES would express more concern for the animals than the humans, warning the humans not to harm the animals in any way.

How do we come to this stage? All these have been happening since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP.

Here is an interesting anecdote about this MP. At one time, in coffee shops and restaurants all over Singapore, crabs were often found crawling over the floors, menacing the legs of diners. Waiters and waitresses were kept busy desperately catching the crabs to put them into tanks which they had crawled out from. This was done repeatedly. Dumb wasn’t it? This happened because Louis Ng had reported to the authority against the tying up of the crabs. He considered it an act of cruelty against animals. Stupid isn’t it?

Louis entered Parliament under the skirt of the GRC after the 2015 GE. That is considered a triumph for unquestioning animal-loving. It is interpreted as a message that the government supports animal-loving, no matter how crazy it may be. The mainstream media lend its support through the might of the pen, or rather, the keyboard.

The proposed ways to deal with the problem lack common sense. Signboards with advices or warnings to humans about how to deal with those animals in an encounter? But humans are not the cause of the problem.

It is time the government, the media and those animal-loving NGO’s come to their senses. Stop being kind-hearted fools. This is a sign of over-breeding. The sensible way to deal with it is to carry out culling. Cull those animals. Do not wait until a human is killed in a road accident involving animals.

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Post by marico
Those animal rights still think it is still early to curb of the monkeys
even when monkeys had now gone into high-rise flats in Bukit Panjang looking
for foods, and have had attacked people in the flat, where in one case the
old lady was sleeping in her room and she was scratched on her forearm when
attacked by a monkey, and she was traumatized.
There were also of two others were also attacked on the ground. There was
also an interview with a virologist which she explained that there can be
dangerous to human health when virus transmission was made to human being
from monkeys when their teeth have many viruses and bacteria that could
transmit to human beings.
Naturally, given heavy cost of ward and costly medical care in SG, the
virus-transmission monkeys must be curbed immediately. No one wants to pay
their own medical bill caused by the garmen of not curbing the attacking
voracious monkeys.
If human being can be previously were curbed to stop at two, why cant these
animals be curbed too. When their monkey population begun to enter into the
mainstream of human lives in their high-rise flats, it showed they have
adapted to their freedom of roaming and attacking of human beings.
By their entering of flats, it showed that these monkeys have
"instinctively" knew that they were given a lot of leeway of "unworried"
protections by their stupid "human rights" animal people over and on their
very own people, for which are prevented to take counter action to attacking
back at them.
These monkeys know from instincts of animal rights becomes their rights to
become more bolds and more unafraid of human beings at all. This is the
dilemma of this pathetic situation of animal stray controls in Singapore.

Post by marico
Culling is necessary in SG if there is an over-population of the
animals.
It is needed to curb them to stop over-crowding of spaces with people at
hawker centres and coffee shops.
Like using the numbers of COEs to curb the over-population of vehicles in
SG, there should also be similar COE to calculate how many animals per
square km area be allowed to roam in SG.
Every country curb birds to prevent contagious avian diseases. There is a
need to balance between curbing of animals and allowing a certain quantity
of birds in SG to roam and to also prevent jumping of host.
The best for SG is to cull the over-population of mynah and crows so that
they do not hover and defecate around coffee shops and hawker centres.
SG should increase other variety of chirping birds that stay on tree
branches and not on the grounds like what the mynah and crow did.
SG can grow and breed a range of nice variety of small birds that sit on
trees and branches, eating of worms and small insects as foods and not
eating of human foods on tables.

Post by Quinne
What is the gist of your message here. Is it just a rant or just lamenting
of a piece here/.
There should a gist of the issue here that should be summarized with clear
focus of clarity of how you wish to do or suggest.
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC,
those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for
their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one
dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe.
Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings
and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any
way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lčse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the
worsening
problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however
minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all
over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common sight in
common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You cannot
eat
in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover food to
have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also
flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food.
Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open
area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human
beings
in order to be kind to animals?

The gist of the issue is in the subject heading. The worry is laws are being
made to protect animals against humans but not the other way round.

People at Bukit Panjang have recently become victims of attacks by wild
monkeys. MP Louis Ng, who is also the chief of ACRES, expresses no sympathy
for the humans. Instead the blame is placed on the humans, for feeding the
animals. Humans are advised how not to provoke the monkeys. In this
situation, we would expect him to come up with a good solution to the
problem.
Under his direction, the monkeys are to be caught in the least hurting way
possible. After that, they will be rehabed and relocated to somewhere else.
This wastes a lot of resources but does not solve the problem. It only moves
the problem to somewhere else. These animals ought to be killed. The Town
Council should advise the people to 'Kill them on sight'. The authority
should also go to the Central Catchment Reserve nearby to cull the monkeys.
The appearance of the wild animals in human inhabited area is usually a sign
of overpopulation in the animals' natural habitat.
The press continues to promote the idea of bringing wilderness closer to the
people with endearing stories about the otters and other wild animals found
in our midst. These are getting closer to human habitats. One day they too
will attack humans. Its only a matter of time.
A new concept is being promoted for the living environment in Singapore
where the city and wilderness meld into one. This is a stupid concept.
Whether you call it a Garden in a City or City in a Garden, a garden or city
is no place where humans are attacked by wild animals. That only happens in
a jungle. Only fools would think of melding a concrete jungle with a real
jungle or vice versa.
Its beginning to show. Wild boars charging at people. Monkeys bite people.
Crows pecked on the heads of people, turning them bloody. Birds of all sorts
fluttering about and scavenging for food in places where humans are having
meals. Stray dogs and cats abound. Rats running around. Is this the type of
city we want to live in?
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The problems of animals among us are getting worse. Even enclosed and air-conditioned food centers have birds pecking at food on the floor or fluttering about. This is an obvious health hazard. They dirty the food that the public consume. Where is NEA?
Pigeons, mynahs, sparrows, crows, etc. are everywhere. They are flying about, pecking at food or resting, in flocks. They are nesting at ledges and rooftops of public and private properties and filling up these places with their droppings. Some have become more aggressive. There have been rising cases of attacks on humans by crows, turning the heads of humans into bloody mess. There are so many stray dogs and cats that they cannot avoid bumping into each other and the cats ended up being killed by the dogs. In these instances, animal lovers would first suspect humans to be the culprits. Cats are intruding into the homes of unsuspecting residents. Police has to be called to deal with a ferocious cat which intruded into someone's home.
When it comes to environmental protection, the finger only points at the waste that humans produced. Animals and the waste that they produce are damaging the living environmental for humans too. They lower the quality of our living environment and endanger public safety and health.
Animals continue to be treated better than humans. Police dogs are going to be well taken care of after their retirements. They will be properly housed and fed. They will be allowed in HDB flats. Before this, bigger dogs are also allowed in HDB flats. For goodness sake, the flats are getting smaller and being packed closer together in a block. It is already a stressful living environment. Do we have to share it with animals too? It will be worsen by dogs barking and urinating and defecating about.
What about the humans who retire from the SPF? Do the SPF ensure that they will not suffer in their twilight years after sacrificing a large part of their lives to keep Singapore safe?
The efforts to psyche the people to accept more animals into their midst continue, with increasing intensity of media bombardment. From previews, it seems we are going to be bombarded with TV serials showing the loving and cute nature of animals from around the world, especially dogs. There is no attempt to present a balanced view. There is nothing in the media to alert the public to the ferocious and merciless nature of animals. News of animals attacking humans are only briefly covered, if ever, and they are only local cases. Google for horrible real life stories about dogs with these words: dog attacks kills baby
http://www.wfmynews2.com/news/nation/dog-attacks-kills-3-week-old-baby/443249577
Even supposedly harmless and helpful dogs can become ferocious attacker.
http://kval.com/politics/nation-and-world/emotional-support-dog-bites-passenger-boarding-flight
Calling for the culling of strays are referred to as "the usual response of fear and ignorance by a minority of people", as one academic in his ivory tower, Senior lecturer at the department of biological sciences at the National University of Singapore, N. Sivasothi, put it.
Its going to get worse as more Singaporeans adopt his kind of attitude and this nation deteriorates into one of kind-hearted fools.

Yesterday, a man was hurt by a wild boar along Hillview Road, in the Bukit Gombak neighborhood. If this is bad, the reports by the mainstream media make it worse. They convey to the public that this is a non-issue. If it is to be believed, it seems everyone that they interviewed took it lightly. One even reminded the authority not to overact by culling the boars.
This is not the first case. Boars have been involved in accidents with vehicles along AYE and Lentor Ave. Boars got killed, humans got hurt. Even in this latest case along Hillview Road, it was not the first time that a wild boar were encountered in the neighborhood. Earlier on, a wild boar was found grazing on the grass stretch beside Bukit Batok Ave 6, another one in the Bukit Batok Nature Park, both areas being within walking distance from Hillview Road. It could be the same boar.
We have experienced an increasing cases of wild animals appearing in human populated areas. Residents and their homes being harassed by wild monkeys, pigeons defecating all over the places, stray dogs and cats roaming around. In the cases involving wild boars, the encounters are detrimental to both. The animals get killed, properties damaged and humans end up being hurt. In such cases, who bears the financial costs? The unfortunate victims. In further insult to the victims, NGOs like ACRES would express more concern for the animals than the humans, warning the humans not to harm the animals in any way.
How do we come to this stage? All these have been happening since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP.
Here is an interesting anecdote about this MP. At one time, in coffee shops and restaurants all over Singapore, crabs were often found crawling over the floors, menacing the legs of diners. Waiters and waitresses were kept busy desperately catching the crabs to put them into tanks which they had crawled out from. This was done repeatedly. Dumb wasn’t it? This happened because Louis Ng had reported to the authority against the tying up of the crabs. He considered it an act of cruelty against animals. Stupid isn’t it?
Louis entered Parliament under the skirt of the GRC after the 2015 GE. That is considered a triumph for unquestioning animal-loving. It is interpreted as a message that the government supports animal-loving, no matter how crazy it may be. The mainstream media lend its support through the might of the pen, or rather, the keyboard.
The proposed ways to deal with the problem lack common sense. Signboards with advices or warnings to humans about how to deal with those animals in an encounter? But humans are not the cause of the problem.
It is time the government, the media and those animal-loving NGO’s come to their senses. Stop being kind-hearted fools. This is a sign of over-breeding. The sensible way to deal with it is to carry out culling. Cull those animals. Do not wait until a human is killed in a road accident involving animals.

Read the followings to know how dangerous wild boars can be.

https://www.independent.ie/videos/world-news/video-wild-boars-go-on-rampage-man-has-finger-bitten-off-36246781.html

https://japantoday.com/category/national/5-injured-after-wild-boar-goes-on-rampage-through-kagawa-mall

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/raging-wild-boar-wreaks-havoc-in-japan-injuring-3-9270106


The usual response from the authority is to advise humans how to behave when encountering wild animals. This is moot. In this case, the wild boar have appeared in a residential area. It could have been around there for a while, in unfamiliar surrounding, possibly hungry. When it encounters a human, it would immediately turn aggressive, without the human having to do anything.

From what I know, that part of Hillview was developed into residential area decades ago. This is not a case of humans recently encroaching into some wild area. The boar is there due to over-breeding in its natural habitat further from the residential area. The authority should deal with this.

The MP for the area has visited the victim of the boar attack. What about Louis Ng or some other officials from ACRES or other animal-loving NGOs? Don't they know that they have to apologize to the victims too? If they have any sense of responsibilities, they should also apologize to all the people in Singapore.

[b***@gmail.com]

Human is human..animal is animal..no doubt abt it..when dealing wit animal one got to deal wit them on an understanding tat..they don't go to school..can say they are illiterates.

Ironically..no doubt animal didn't go to school but it's much much easier to train/tame some of these animals than training or taming a human..
Why I said tat?

If u ask a trained dog to stand..he stand..u ask to sit he sit..but not on human...cos human are too brainy..he may go against u..
So can say..if a man got 2 or 10 wives staying under the same roof...wowww this guy must be a very very very superb trainer..!!..cos human got negative mindset..so it's not easy to train human..
For those man who got 2 or 3 wives I kudos to them..Animal trainer can't come close to him..
How abt those human ala ala illterates?..can it be trained?

Not tat easy for sure...cos those ala ala buggers after reading tat fucktard story book..they all kena " stoned"..like smoking marijuana..believing in something ( ala ala) tat doesn't exist..or nothing to prove it's existence.. n just keep on using tat name..( ala ala)..
This so called spirit ( ala ala ) must be laughing ball the way to the Netherworld bank.. telling himself this " who are these idiots"? Dying in my name n expect me to provide them 72 virgins...maybe I can provide them 72 mother hens!..

Tat is why Osama being dead few years back..never complained at all..cos he thought he got 72 virgins..but actually he got 144 mother hens for him to fuck. Until he surrender himself..hahaha
Osama really encounter bad experience leh. Cos if he got 72 virgins. He sure brat any it..hahahahaha

[kopican]

There are seriously some cultural of "attitudinal" issues in the AVA and
ACRE, where they were the one in managing of wild life roaming in SG.

When complaints to them of monkeys, they will say not to bother or feed
them. When complaint to them of pigeons, they will say leave them alone and
not to feed them.

They said they will grow more fruit trees for these animals. But there were
no proof of them having done that.

If they had done and grew enough of fruit tress for these pigeons, monkeys
and wild boars, they would not have strayed out of their territory spaces in
the forest and jungle.

This means they did nothing as they were not significant reduction and
elimination of animal intrusion into public areas.

In short, they did nothing to resolve and curb their problems. This is the
dilemma of government people becoming irresponsible and unaccountable for
their incompetence.

One never heard on this from minsters on these matters, and PM were silent
on them, too. Seriously, they should step forward to speak what they should
do with them.

Since the problem has been procrastinated for several years already, there
is a need to finalize a curbing solution to curb them from proliferating and
infesting the public food area with bacteria and viruses.

Post by marico
Those animal rights still think it is still early to curb of the monkeys
even when monkeys had now gone into high-rise flats in Bukit Panjang looking
for foods, and have had attacked people in the flat, where in one case the
old lady was sleeping in her room and she was scratched on her forearm when
attacked by a monkey, and she was traumatized.
There were also of two others were also attacked on the ground. There was
also an interview with a virologist which she explained that there can be
dangerous to human health when virus transmission was made to human being
from monkeys when their teeth have many viruses and bacteria that could
transmit to human beings.
Naturally, given heavy cost of ward and costly medical care in SG, the
virus-transmission monkeys must be curbed immediately. No one wants to pay
their own medical bill caused by the garmen of not curbing the attacking
voracious monkeys.
If human being can be previously were curbed to stop at two, why cant these
animals be curbed too. When their monkey population begun to enter into the
mainstream of human lives in their high-rise flats, it showed they have
adapted to their freedom of roaming and attacking of human beings.
By their entering of flats, it showed that these monkeys have
"instinctively" knew that they were given a lot of leeway of "unworried"
protections by their stupid "human rights" animal people over and on their
very own people, for which are prevented to take counter action to attacking
back at them.
These monkeys know from instincts of animal rights becomes their rights to
become more bolds and more unafraid of human beings at all. This is the
dilemma of this pathetic situation of animal stray controls in Singapore.

Post by marico
Culling is necessary in SG if there is an over-population of the
animals.
It is needed to curb them to stop over-crowding of spaces with people at
hawker centres and coffee shops.
Like using the numbers of COEs to curb the over-population of vehicles in
SG, there should also be similar COE to calculate how many animals per
square km area be allowed to roam in SG.
Every country curb birds to prevent contagious avian diseases. There is a
need to balance between curbing of animals and allowing a certain quantity
of birds in SG to roam and to also prevent jumping of host.
The best for SG is to cull the over-population of mynah and crows so that
they do not hover and defecate around coffee shops and hawker centres.
SG should increase other variety of chirping birds that stay on tree
branches and not on the grounds like what the mynah and crow did.
SG can grow and breed a range of nice variety of small birds that sit on
trees and branches, eating of worms and small insects as foods and not
eating of human foods on tables.

Post by Quinne
What is the gist of your message here. Is it just a rant or just lamenting
of a piece here/.
There should a gist of the issue here that should be summarized with clear
focus of clarity of how you wish to do or suggest.
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC,
those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for
their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one
dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe.
Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings
and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any
way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lčse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the worsening
problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however
minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all
over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common
sight
in
common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You
cannot
eat
in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover
food
to
have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also
flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food.
Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open
area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings
in order to be kind to animals?

The gist of the issue is in the subject heading. The worry is laws are being
made to protect animals against humans but not the other way round.

People at Bukit Panjang have recently become victims of attacks by wild
monkeys. MP Louis Ng, who is also the chief of ACRES, expresses no sympathy
for the humans. Instead the blame is placed on the humans, for feeding the
animals. Humans are advised how not to provoke the monkeys. In this
situation, we would expect him to come up with a good solution to the
problem.
Under his direction, the monkeys are to be caught in the least hurting way
possible. After that, they will be rehabed and relocated to somewhere else.
This wastes a lot of resources but does not solve the problem. It only moves
the problem to somewhere else. These animals ought to be killed. The Town
Council should advise the people to 'Kill them on sight'. The authority
should also go to the Central Catchment Reserve nearby to cull the monkeys.
The appearance of the wild animals in human inhabited area is usually a sign
of overpopulation in the animals' natural habitat.
The press continues to promote the idea of bringing wilderness closer to the
people with endearing stories about the otters and other wild animals found
in our midst. These are getting closer to human habitats. One day they too
will attack humans. Its only a matter of time.
A new concept is being promoted for the living environment in Singapore
where the city and wilderness meld into one. This is a stupid concept.
Whether you call it a Garden in a City or City in a Garden, a garden or city
is no place where humans are attacked by wild animals. That only happens in
a jungle. Only fools would think of melding a concrete jungle with a real
jungle or vice versa.
Its beginning to show. Wild boars charging at people. Monkeys bite people.
Crows pecked on the heads of people, turning them bloody. Birds of all sorts
fluttering about and scavenging for food in places where humans are having
meals. Stray dogs and cats abound. Rats running around. Is this the type of
city we want to live in?
---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

The problems of animals among us are getting worse. Even enclosed and
air-conditioned food centers have birds pecking at food on the floor or
fluttering about. This is an obvious health hazard. They dirty the food that
the public consume. Where is NEA?

Pigeons, mynahs, sparrows, crows, etc. are everywhere. They are flying
about, pecking at food or resting, in flocks. They are nesting at ledges and
rooftops of public and private properties and filling up these places with
their droppings. Some have become more aggressive. There have been rising
cases of attacks on humans by crows, turning the heads of humans into bloody
mess. There are so many stray dogs and cats that they cannot avoid bumping
into each other and the cats ended up being killed by the dogs. In these
instances, animal lovers would first suspect humans to be the culprits. Cats
are intruding into the homes of unsuspecting residents. Police has to be
called to deal with a ferocious cat which intruded into someone's home.

When it comes to environmental protection, the finger only points at the
waste that humans produced. Animals and the waste that they produce are
damaging the living environmental for humans too. They lower the quality of
our living environment and endanger public safety and health.


Animals continue to be treated better than humans. Police dogs are going to
be well taken care of after their retirements. They will be properly housed
and fed. They will be allowed in HDB flats. Before this, bigger dogs are
also allowed in HDB flats. For goodness sake, the flats are getting smaller
and being packed closer together in a block. It is already a stressful
living environment. Do we have to share it with animals too? It will be
worsen by dogs barking and urinating and defecating about.
What about the humans who retire from the SPF? Do the SPF ensure that they
will not suffer in their twilight years after sacrificing a large part of
their lives to keep Singapore safe?


The efforts to psyche the people to accept more animals into their midst
continue, with increasing intensity of media bombardment. From previews, it
seems we are going to be bombarded with TV serials showing the loving and
cute nature of animals from around the world, especially dogs. There is no
attempt to present a balanced view. There is nothing in the media to alert
the public to the ferocious and merciless nature of animals. News of
animals attacking humans are only briefly covered, if ever, and they are
only local cases. Google for horrible real life stories about dogs with
these words: dog attacks kills baby

Here's the first one from a long list:
http://www.wfmynews2.com/news/nation/dog-attacks-kills-3-week-old-baby/443249577

Even supposedly harmless and helpful dogs can become ferocious attacker.
http://kval.com/politics/nation-and-world/emotional-support-dog-bites-passenger-boarding-flight


Calling for the culling of strays are referred to as "the usual response of
fear and ignorance by a minority of people", as one academic in his ivory
tower, Senior lecturer at the department of biological sciences at the
National University of Singapore, N. Sivasothi, put it.

Its going to get worse as more Singaporeans adopt his kind of attitude and
this nation deteriorates into one of kind-hearted fools.

[l***@gmail.com]

Post by kopican
There are seriously some cultural of "attitudinal" issues in the AVA and
ACRE, where they were the one in managing of wild life roaming in SG.
When complaints to them of monkeys, they will say not to bother or feed
them. When complaint to them of pigeons, they will say leave them alone and
not to feed them.
They said they will grow more fruit trees for these animals. But there were
no proof of them having done that.
If they had done and grew enough of fruit tress for these pigeons, monkeys
and wild boars, they would not have strayed out of their territory spaces in
the forest and jungle.
This means they did nothing as they were not significant reduction and
elimination of animal intrusion into public areas.
In short, they did nothing to resolve and curb their problems. This is the
dilemma of government people becoming irresponsible and unaccountable for
their incompetence.
One never heard on this from minsters on these matters, and PM were silent
on them, too. Seriously, they should step forward to speak what they should
do with them.
Since the problem has been procrastinated for several years already, there
is a need to finalize a curbing solution to curb them from proliferating and
infesting the public food area with bacteria and viruses.

Post by marico
Those animal rights still think it is still early to curb of the monkeys
even when monkeys had now gone into high-rise flats in Bukit Panjang looking
for foods, and have had attacked people in the flat, where in one case the
old lady was sleeping in her room and she was scratched on her forearm when
attacked by a monkey, and she was traumatized.
There were also of two others were also attacked on the ground. There was
also an interview with a virologist which she explained that there can be
dangerous to human health when virus transmission was made to human being
from monkeys when their teeth have many viruses and bacteria that could
transmit to human beings.
Naturally, given heavy cost of ward and costly medical care in SG, the
virus-transmission monkeys must be curbed immediately. No one wants to pay
their own medical bill caused by the garmen of not curbing the attacking
voracious monkeys.
If human being can be previously were curbed to stop at two, why cant these
animals be curbed too. When their monkey population begun to enter into the
mainstream of human lives in their high-rise flats, it showed they have
adapted to their freedom of roaming and attacking of human beings.
By their entering of flats, it showed that these monkeys have
"instinctively" knew that they were given a lot of leeway of "unworried"
protections by their stupid "human rights" animal people over and on their
very own people, for which are prevented to take counter action to attacking
back at them.
These monkeys know from instincts of animal rights becomes their rights to
become more bolds and more unafraid of human beings at all. This is the
dilemma of this pathetic situation of animal stray controls in Singapore.

Post by marico
Culling is necessary in SG if there is an over-population of the
animals.
It is needed to curb them to stop over-crowding of spaces with people at
hawker centres and coffee shops.
Like using the numbers of COEs to curb the over-population of vehicles in
SG, there should also be similar COE to calculate how many animals per
square km area be allowed to roam in SG.
Every country curb birds to prevent contagious avian diseases. There is a
need to balance between curbing of animals and allowing a certain quantity
of birds in SG to roam and to also prevent jumping of host.
The best for SG is to cull the over-population of mynah and crows so that
they do not hover and defecate around coffee shops and hawker centres.
SG should increase other variety of chirping birds that stay on tree
branches and not on the grounds like what the mynah and crow did.
SG can grow and breed a range of nice variety of small birds that sit on
trees and branches, eating of worms and small insects as foods and not
eating of human foods on tables.

Post by Quinne
What is the gist of your message here. Is it just a rant or just lamenting
of a piece here/.
There should a gist of the issue here that should be summarized with clear
focus of clarity of how you wish to do or suggest.
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC,
those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for
their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one
dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe.
Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings
and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any
way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lčse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the worsening
problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however
minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all
over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common
sight
in
common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You
cannot
eat
in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover
food
to
have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also
flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food.
Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open
area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings
in order to be kind to animals?

The gist of the issue is in the subject heading. The worry is laws are being
made to protect animals against humans but not the other way round.

People at Bukit Panjang have recently become victims of attacks by wild
monkeys. MP Louis Ng, who is also the chief of ACRES, expresses no sympathy
for the humans. Instead the blame is placed on the humans, for feeding the
animals. Humans are advised how not to provoke the monkeys. In this
situation, we would expect him to come up with a good solution to the
problem.
Under his direction, the monkeys are to be caught in the least hurting way
possible. After that, they will be rehabed and relocated to somewhere else.
This wastes a lot of resources but does not solve the problem. It only moves
the problem to somewhere else. These animals ought to be killed. The Town
Council should advise the people to 'Kill them on sight'. The authority
should also go to the Central Catchment Reserve nearby to cull the monkeys.
The appearance of the wild animals in human inhabited area is usually a sign
of overpopulation in the animals' natural habitat.
The press continues to promote the idea of bringing wilderness closer to the
people with endearing stories about the otters and other wild animals found
in our midst. These are getting closer to human habitats. One day they too
will attack humans. Its only a matter of time.
A new concept is being promoted for the living environment in Singapore
where the city and wilderness meld into one. This is a stupid concept.
Whether you call it a Garden in a City or City in a Garden, a garden or city
is no place where humans are attacked by wild animals. That only happens in
a jungle. Only fools would think of melding a concrete jungle with a real
jungle or vice versa.
Its beginning to show. Wild boars charging at people. Monkeys bite people.
Crows pecked on the heads of people, turning them bloody. Birds of all sorts
fluttering about and scavenging for food in places where humans are having
meals. Stray dogs and cats abound. Rats running around. Is this the type of
city we want to live in?
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This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
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The problems of animals among us are getting worse. Even enclosed and
air-conditioned food centers have birds pecking at food on the floor or
fluttering about. This is an obvious health hazard. They dirty the food that
the public consume. Where is NEA?
Pigeons, mynahs, sparrows, crows, etc. are everywhere. They are flying
about, pecking at food or resting, in flocks. They are nesting at ledges and
rooftops of public and private properties and filling up these places with
their droppings. Some have become more aggressive. There have been rising
cases of attacks on humans by crows, turning the heads of humans into bloody
mess. There are so many stray dogs and cats that they cannot avoid bumping
into each other and the cats ended up being killed by the dogs. In these
instances, animal lovers would first suspect humans to be the culprits. Cats
are intruding into the homes of unsuspecting residents. Police has to be
called to deal with a ferocious cat which intruded into someone's home.
When it comes to environmental protection, the finger only points at the
waste that humans produced. Animals and the waste that they produce are
damaging the living environmental for humans too. They lower the quality of
our living environment and endanger public safety and health.
Animals continue to be treated better than humans. Police dogs are going to
be well taken care of after their retirements. They will be properly housed
and fed. They will be allowed in HDB flats. Before this, bigger dogs are
also allowed in HDB flats. For goodness sake, the flats are getting smaller
and being packed closer together in a block. It is already a stressful
living environment. Do we have to share it with animals too? It will be
worsen by dogs barking and urinating and defecating about.
What about the humans who retire from the SPF? Do the SPF ensure that they
will not suffer in their twilight years after sacrificing a large part of
their lives to keep Singapore safe?
The efforts to psyche the people to accept more animals into their midst
continue, with increasing intensity of media bombardment. From previews, it
seems we are going to be bombarded with TV serials showing the loving and
cute nature of animals from around the world, especially dogs. There is no
attempt to present a balanced view. There is nothing in the media to alert
the public to the ferocious and merciless nature of animals. News of
animals attacking humans are only briefly covered, if ever, and they are
only local cases. Google for horrible real life stories about dogs with
these words: dog attacks kills baby
http://www.wfmynews2.com/news/nation/dog-attacks-kills-3-week-old-baby/443249577
Even supposedly harmless and helpful dogs can become ferocious attacker.
http://kval.com/politics/nation-and-world/emotional-support-dog-bites-passenger-boarding-flight
Calling for the culling of strays are referred to as "the usual response of
fear and ignorance by a minority of people", as one academic in his ivory
tower, Senior lecturer at the department of biological sciences at the
National University of Singapore, N. Sivasothi, put it.
Its going to get worse as more Singaporeans adopt his kind of attitude and
this nation deteriorates into one of kind-hearted fools.

Good to know that there are others who are concerned about the problems faced by the country from animals.

Physical hurt and death to humans are getting more common. Read what have happened overseas.

Bull in a Chinese supermarket. Happened recently.

That wild boar that hurt someone along Hillview Road could well have charged into one of the eateries on the ground floor of HillV2, a shopping+residential complex just across the road.

Another bull (without shit) story, this one from India.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/bull-gores-argentine-tourist-death-india-police-111609106.html


Those otters have invaded airport runway. One of these days, they will sneak into someone's home. If they find a baby sleeping, they will munch him/her up like would do to a fish. Do the authorities have to wait for this to happen before they decide to drive these animals far away from the city?

[w***@gmail.com]

Post by l***@gmail.com

Post by kopican
There are seriously some cultural of "attitudinal" issues in the AVA and
ACRE, where they were the one in managing of wild life roaming in SG.
When complaints to them of monkeys, they will say not to bother or feed
them. When complaint to them of pigeons, they will say leave them alone and
not to feed them.
They said they will grow more fruit trees for these animals. But there were
no proof of them having done that.
If they had done and grew enough of fruit tress for these pigeons, monkeys
and wild boars, they would not have strayed out of their territory spaces in
the forest and jungle.
This means they did nothing as they were not significant reduction and
elimination of animal intrusion into public areas.
In short, they did nothing to resolve and curb their problems. This is the
dilemma of government people becoming irresponsible and unaccountable for
their incompetence.
One never heard on this from minsters on these matters, and PM were silent
on them, too. Seriously, they should step forward to speak what they should
do with them.
Since the problem has been procrastinated for several years already, there
is a need to finalize a curbing solution to curb them from proliferating and
infesting the public food area with bacteria and viruses.

Post by marico
Those animal rights still think it is still early to curb of the monkeys
even when monkeys had now gone into high-rise flats in Bukit Panjang looking
for foods, and have had attacked people in the flat, where in one case the
old lady was sleeping in her room and she was scratched on her forearm when
attacked by a monkey, and she was traumatized.
There were also of two others were also attacked on the ground. There was
also an interview with a virologist which she explained that there can be
dangerous to human health when virus transmission was made to human being
from monkeys when their teeth have many viruses and bacteria that could
transmit to human beings.
Naturally, given heavy cost of ward and costly medical care in SG, the
virus-transmission monkeys must be curbed immediately. No one wants to pay
their own medical bill caused by the garmen of not curbing the attacking
voracious monkeys.
If human being can be previously were curbed to stop at two, why cant these
animals be curbed too. When their monkey population begun to enter into the
mainstream of human lives in their high-rise flats, it showed they have
adapted to their freedom of roaming and attacking of human beings.
By their entering of flats, it showed that these monkeys have
"instinctively" knew that they were given a lot of leeway of "unworried"
protections by their stupid "human rights" animal people over and on their
very own people, for which are prevented to take counter action to attacking
back at them.
These monkeys know from instincts of animal rights becomes their rights to
become more bolds and more unafraid of human beings at all. This is the
dilemma of this pathetic situation of animal stray controls in Singapore.

Post by marico
Culling is necessary in SG if there is an over-population of the
animals.
It is needed to curb them to stop over-crowding of spaces with people at
hawker centres and coffee shops.
Like using the numbers of COEs to curb the over-population of vehicles in
SG, there should also be similar COE to calculate how many animals per
square km area be allowed to roam in SG.
Every country curb birds to prevent contagious avian diseases. There is a
need to balance between curbing of animals and allowing a certain quantity
of birds in SG to roam and to also prevent jumping of host.
The best for SG is to cull the over-population of mynah and crows so that
they do not hover and defecate around coffee shops and hawker centres.
SG should increase other variety of chirping birds that stay on tree
branches and not on the grounds like what the mynah and crow did.
SG can grow and breed a range of nice variety of small birds that sit on
trees and branches, eating of worms and small insects as foods and not
eating of human foods on tables.

Post by Quinne
What is the gist of your message here. Is it just a rant or just lamenting
of a piece here/.
There should a gist of the issue here that should be summarized with clear
focus of clarity of how you wish to do or suggest.
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC,
those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for
their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one
dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe.
Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings
and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any
way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lčse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the
worsening
problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however
minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all
over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common
sight
in
common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You
cannot
eat
in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover
food
to
have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also
flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food.
Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open
area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human
beings
in order to be kind to animals?

The gist of the issue is in the subject heading. The worry is laws are being
made to protect animals against humans but not the other way round.

People at Bukit Panjang have recently become victims of attacks by wild
monkeys. MP Louis Ng, who is also the chief of ACRES, expresses no sympathy
for the humans. Instead the blame is placed on the humans, for feeding the
animals. Humans are advised how not to provoke the monkeys. In this
situation, we would expect him to come up with a good solution to the
problem.
Under his direction, the monkeys are to be caught in the least hurting way
possible. After that, they will be rehabed and relocated to somewhere else.
This wastes a lot of resources but does not solve the problem. It only moves
the problem to somewhere else. These animals ought to be killed. The Town
Council should advise the people to 'Kill them on sight'. The authority
should also go to the Central Catchment Reserve nearby to cull the monkeys.
The appearance of the wild animals in human inhabited area is usually a sign
of overpopulation in the animals' natural habitat.
The press continues to promote the idea of bringing wilderness closer to the
people with endearing stories about the otters and other wild animals found
in our midst. These are getting closer to human habitats. One day they too
will attack humans. Its only a matter of time.
A new concept is being promoted for the living environment in Singapore
where the city and wilderness meld into one. This is a stupid concept.
Whether you call it a Garden in a City or City in a Garden, a garden or city
is no place where humans are attacked by wild animals. That only happens in
a jungle. Only fools would think of melding a concrete jungle with a real
jungle or vice versa.
Its beginning to show. Wild boars charging at people. Monkeys bite people.
Crows pecked on the heads of people, turning them bloody. Birds of all sorts
fluttering about and scavenging for food in places where humans are having
meals. Stray dogs and cats abound. Rats running around. Is this the type of
city we want to live in?
---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

The problems of animals among us are getting worse. Even enclosed and
air-conditioned food centers have birds pecking at food on the floor or
fluttering about. This is an obvious health hazard. They dirty the food that
the public consume. Where is NEA?
Pigeons, mynahs, sparrows, crows, etc. are everywhere. They are flying
about, pecking at food or resting, in flocks. They are nesting at ledges and
rooftops of public and private properties and filling up these places with
their droppings. Some have become more aggressive. There have been rising
cases of attacks on humans by crows, turning the heads of humans into bloody
mess. There are so many stray dogs and cats that they cannot avoid bumping
into each other and the cats ended up being killed by the dogs. In these
instances, animal lovers would first suspect humans to be the culprits. Cats
are intruding into the homes of unsuspecting residents. Police has to be
called to deal with a ferocious cat which intruded into someone's home.
When it comes to environmental protection, the finger only points at the
waste that humans produced. Animals and the waste that they produce are
damaging the living environmental for humans too. They lower the quality of
our living environment and endanger public safety and health.
Animals continue to be treated better than humans. Police dogs are going to
be well taken care of after their retirements. They will be properly housed
and fed. They will be allowed in HDB flats. Before this, bigger dogs are
also allowed in HDB flats. For goodness sake, the flats are getting smaller
and being packed closer together in a block. It is already a stressful
living environment. Do we have to share it with animals too? It will be
worsen by dogs barking and urinating and defecating about.
What about the humans who retire from the SPF? Do the SPF ensure that they
will not suffer in their twilight years after sacrificing a large part of
their lives to keep Singapore safe?
The efforts to psyche the people to accept more animals into their midst
continue, with increasing intensity of media bombardment. From previews, it
seems we are going to be bombarded with TV serials showing the loving and
cute nature of animals from around the world, especially dogs. There is no
attempt to present a balanced view. There is nothing in the media to alert
the public to the ferocious and merciless nature of animals. News of
animals attacking humans are only briefly covered, if ever, and they are
only local cases. Google for horrible real life stories about dogs with
these words: dog attacks kills baby
http://www.wfmynews2.com/news/nation/dog-attacks-kills-3-week-old-baby/443249577
Even supposedly harmless and helpful dogs can become ferocious attacker.
http://kval.com/politics/nation-and-world/emotional-support-dog-bites-passenger-boarding-flight
Calling for the culling of strays are referred to as "the usual response of
fear and ignorance by a minority of people", as one academic in his ivory
tower, Senior lecturer at the department of biological sciences at the
National University of Singapore, N. Sivasothi, put it.
Its going to get worse as more Singaporeans adopt his kind of attitude and
this nation deteriorates into one of kind-hearted fools.

Good to know that there are others who are concerned about the problems faced by the country from animals.
Physical hurt and death to humans are getting more common. Read what have happened overseas.
Bull in a Chinese supermarket. Happened recently.
http://youtu.be/KwJhwTbX5EM
That wild boar that hurt someone along Hillview Road could well have charged into one of the eateries on the ground floor of HillV2, a shopping+residential complex just across the road.
Another bull (without shit) story, this one from India.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/bull-gores-argentine-tourist-death-india-police-111609106.html
Those otters have invaded airport runway. One of these days, they will sneak into someone's home. If they find a baby sleeping, they will munch him/her up like would do to a fish. Do the authorities have to wait for this to happen before they decide to drive these animals far away from the city?

Those otters may look cute but are they safe?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/otter-attack-swimming-teenage-boys-california-a7201376.html

[seaso]

The excess monkeys should be just caught and put to sleep.

This is the only way to curb their excess growth.

Post by marico
Culling is necessary in SG if there is an over-population of the
animals.
It is needed to curb them to stop over-crowding of spaces with people at
hawker centres and coffee shops.
Like using the numbers of COEs to curb the over-population of vehicles in
SG, there should also be similar COE to calculate how many animals per
square km area be allowed to roam in SG.
Every country curb birds to prevent contagious avian diseases. There is a
need to balance between curbing of animals and allowing a certain quantity
of birds in SG to roam and to also prevent jumping of host.
The best for SG is to cull the over-population of mynah and crows so that
they do not hover and defecate around coffee shops and hawker centres.
SG should increase other variety of chirping birds that stay on tree
branches and not on the grounds like what the mynah and crow did.
SG can grow and breed a range of nice variety of small birds that sit on
trees and branches, eating of worms and small insects as foods and not
eating of human foods on tables.

Post by Quinne
What is the gist of your message here. Is it just a rant or just lamenting
of a piece here/.
There should a gist of the issue here that should be summarized with clear
focus of clarity of how you wish to do or suggest.
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC,
those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for
their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one
dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe.
Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings
and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any
way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lčse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the worsening
problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however
minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all
over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common sight in
common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You cannot eat
in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover food to
have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also
flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food.
Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open
area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings
in order to be kind to animals?

The gist of the issue is in the subject heading. The worry is laws are being
made to protect animals against humans but not the other way round.

People at Bukit Panjang have recently become victims of attacks by wild
monkeys. MP Louis Ng, who is also the chief of ACRES, expresses no sympathy
for the humans. Instead the blame is placed on the humans, for feeding the
animals. Humans are advised how not to provoke the monkeys. In this
situation, we would expect him to come up with a good solution to the
problem.

Under his direction, the monkeys are to be caught in the least hurting way
possible. After that, they will be rehabed and relocated to somewhere else.
This wastes a lot of resources but does not solve the problem. It only moves
the problem to somewhere else. These animals ought to be killed. The Town
Council should advise the people to 'Kill them on sight'. The authority
should also go to the Central Catchment Reserve nearby to cull the monkeys.
The appearance of the wild animals in human inhabited area is usually a sign
of overpopulation in the animals' natural habitat.

The press continues to promote the idea of bringing wilderness closer to the
people with endearing stories about the otters and other wild animals found
in our midst. These are getting closer to human habitats. One day they too
will attack humans. Its only a matter of time.

A new concept is being promoted for the living environment in Singapore
where the city and wilderness meld into one. This is a stupid concept.
Whether you call it a Garden in a City or City in a Garden, a garden or city
is no place where humans are attacked by wild animals. That only happens in
a jungle. Only fools would think of melding a concrete jungle with a real
jungle or vice versa.

Its beginning to show. Wild boars charging at people. Monkeys bite people.
Crows pecked on the heads of people, turning them bloody. Birds of all sorts
fluttering about and scavenging for food in places where humans are having
meals. Stray dogs and cats abound. Rats running around. Is this the type of
city we want to live in?

---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

[m***@gmail.com]

Post by Quinne
What is the gist of your message here. Is it just a rant or just lamenting
of a piece here/.
There should a gist of the issue here that should be summarized with clear
focus of clarity of how you wish to do or suggest.
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC,
those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for
their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one
dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe.
Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings
and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any
way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lčse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the worsening
problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however
minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all
over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common sight in
common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You cannot eat
in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover food to
have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also
flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food.
Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open
area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings
in order to be kind to animals?

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/heroes-among-us-aesthetic-doctors-mission-to-save-street-dogs

Is this our hero? So much taxpayers money were used to train him as a medical doctor. So many more humans require his acquired knowledge to improve their well being. Instead he spends it on stray dogs.

Is he being kind? He is helping to increase the number of strays. Looking at him, irresponsible dog owners will not feel guilty to release their unwanted pets as strays.

Our heroes should rightly be those who are working hard to reduce the number of strays, working out methods to trace strays back to their owners.

He is another example of how Western values are weakening our country.

[m***@gmail.com]

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by Quinne
What is the gist of your message here. Is it just a rant or just lamenting
of a piece here/.
There should a gist of the issue here that should be summarized with clear
focus of clarity of how you wish to do or suggest.
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC,
those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for
their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one
dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe.
Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings
and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any
way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lčse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the worsening
problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however
minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all
over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common sight in
common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You cannot eat
in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover food to
have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also
flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food.
Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open
area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings
in order to be kind to animals?

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/heroes-among-us-aesthetic-doctors-mission-to-save-street-dogs
Is this our hero? So much taxpayers money were used to train him as a medical doctor. So many more humans require his acquired knowledge to improve their well being. Instead he spends it on stray dogs.
Is he being kind? He is helping to increase the number of strays. Looking at him, irresponsible dog owners will not feel guilty to release their unwanted pets as strays.
Our heroes should rightly be those who are working hard to reduce the number of strays, working out methods to trace strays back to their owners.
He is another example of how Western values are weakening our country.

It seems our English language media is only interested in promoting Western values, like loving animal blindly. It only run stories about how animals and humans have helped each other, how humans are being cruel towards animals but not stories about how animals have harmed humans.

Recently, residents in Pasir Ris have been attacked by crows. Some were pecked on the head until they were bloodied. Not a word of this is reported in the English-language media. But one Dr. who pick up stray dogs for re-housing is portrayed as our hero.

[rover]

Why did your garmen did not curb and contain the so many crows and pigeons
and mynah that were roaming in and around the hawker centres.? Why there
were no laws on that? Why no one traps and catches or kills them to reduce
their numbers?.

Why is that the people of birds asked that they be left alone? Who are these
influencing peoples? Why these animal friendly people have prevented the AVA
from curbing or eliminating them. The festering bird problem grows and
multiplied.

As a results, these birds proliferated in vast areas, defecating on
pavements and building hedges, and even harassed or attacked people.

Their allowing of breeding of them, like crows and mynahs, exacerbating the
festering problem. Their attack on humans is evidence of inbreeding of bird
like crows to attack when their baby birds were encroached by humans.

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by Quinne
What is the gist of your message here. Is it just a rant or just lamenting
of a piece here/.
There should a gist of the issue here that should be summarized with clear
focus of clarity of how you wish to do or suggest.
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC,
those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for
their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one
dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe.
Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings
and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any
way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lčse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the worsening
problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however
minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all
over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common sight in
common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You cannot eat
in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover food to
have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also
flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food.
Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open
area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings
in order to be kind to animals?

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/heroes-among-us-aesthetic-doctors-mission-to-save-street-dogs
Is this our hero? So much taxpayers money were used to train him as a
medical doctor. So many more humans require his acquired knowledge to
improve their well being. Instead he spends it on stray dogs.
Is he being kind? He is helping to increase the number of strays. Looking
at him, irresponsible dog owners will not feel guilty to release their
unwanted pets as strays.
Our heroes should rightly be those who are working hard to reduce the
number of strays, working out methods to trace strays back to their
owners.
He is another example of how Western values are weakening our country.

It seems our English language media is only interested in promoting Western
values, like loving animal blindly. It only run stories about how animals
and humans have helped each other, how humans are being cruel towards
animals but not stories about how animals have harmed humans.

Recently, residents in Pasir Ris have been attacked by crows. Some were
pecked on the head until they were bloodied. Not a word of this is reported
in the English-language media. But one Dr. who pick up stray dogs for
re-housing is portrayed as our hero.

[birds nuisance and hazard]

Post by rover
Why did your garmen did not curb and contain the so many crows and pigeons
and mynah that were roaming in and around the hawker centres.? Why there
were no laws on that? Why no one traps and catches or kills them to reduce
their numbers?.
Why is that the people of birds asked that they be left alone? Who are these
influencing peoples? Why these animal friendly people have prevented the AVA
from curbing or eliminating them. The festering bird problem grows and
multiplied.
As a results, these birds proliferated in vast areas, defecating on
pavements and building hedges, and even harassed or attacked people.
Their allowing of breeding of them, like crows and mynahs, exacerbating the
festering problem. Their attack on humans is evidence of inbreeding of bird
like crows to attack when their baby birds were encroached by humans.

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by Quinne
What is the gist of your message here. Is it just a rant or just lamenting
of a piece here/.
There should a gist of the issue here that should be summarized with clear
focus of clarity of how you wish to do or suggest.
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC,
those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for
their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one
dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe.
Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings
and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any
way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lčse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the worsening
problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however
minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all
over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common sight in
common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You cannot eat
in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover food to
have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also
flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food.
Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open
area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings
in order to be kind to animals?

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/heroes-among-us-aesthetic-doctors-mission-to-save-street-dogs
Is this our hero? So much taxpayers money were used to train him as a
medical doctor. So many more humans require his acquired knowledge to
improve their well being. Instead he spends it on stray dogs.
Is he being kind? He is helping to increase the number of strays. Looking
at him, irresponsible dog owners will not feel guilty to release their
unwanted pets as strays.
Our heroes should rightly be those who are working hard to reduce the
number of strays, working out methods to trace strays back to their
owners.
He is another example of how Western values are weakening our country.

It seems our English language media is only interested in promoting Western
values, like loving animal blindly. It only run stories about how animals
and humans have helped each other, how humans are being cruel towards
animals but not stories about how animals have harmed humans.
Recently, residents in Pasir Ris have been attacked by crows. Some were
pecked on the head until they were bloodied. Not a word of this is reported
in the English-language media. But one Dr. who pick up stray dogs for
re-housing is portrayed as our hero.

Indeed the birds population on the island has obviously increased. Pigeons are everywhere, flying about in flocks, picking up bits of food from the ground, nesting on roof-tops and air-conditioner ledges of buildings, gaps in support structures of MRT tracks, etc. They are invading food centers. Chinatown Smith Street food center is full of them. Even air-conditioned food courts are not spared. At Jurong East, pigeons are found in the food court at the ground level of its MRT station, sparrows are found in the food court at Big Box.

The presence of birds among humans is a public health hazard. Several countries around the region recently report about cases of Avian flu. Its a matter of time before we get it again. The authorities seem to have surrendered to the animal-welfare NGOs and the general population are left to the mercies of animals.

Instead of alerting the public to the hazardz, Our English-language press has proudly reported about how more migratory birds are coming to Singapore to escape the winter cold in other parts of the world. Stupid journalism.

[SuperPET]

Post by f***@gmail.com
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC, those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe. Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lèse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the worsening problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common sight in common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You cannot eat in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover food to have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food. Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings in order to be kind to animals?

The debate will be an on-going one predicated on how an individual values a pet.

To a non-pet lover, a dog, cat, or rabbit, is an animal that may be a pest, or can be ignored or worse/best to be eaten.

However, to a pet lover, the pet is part of the family.

There is a big gulf separating pest, food to family. If one person stands at the pest side and another person stands at the family end ... war will soon ensue.

[t***@gmail.com]

Post by SuperPET

Post by f***@gmail.com
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC, those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe. Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lèse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the worsening problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common sight in common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You cannot eat in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover food to have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food. Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings in order to be kind to animals?

The debate will be an on-going one predicated on how an individual values a pet.
To a non-pet lover, a dog, cat, or rabbit, is an animal that may be a pest, or can be ignored or worse/best to be eaten.
However, to a pet lover, the pet is part of the family.
There is a big gulf separating pest, food to family. If one person stands at the pest side and another person stands at the family end ... war will soon ensue.

You are muddle-headed. There should be no debate about what is pet and what is pest. Strays are pests. They should be eliminated by all means.

If only pet lovers have considered pets as part of their families. They only consider the pet to be something for them to toy around. If a pet is a part of family, it would be looked after till death. In that case, there would be no strays.

[spacer]

Any idea what is your best option on animals?

Post by SuperPET

Post by f***@gmail.com
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a
GRC, those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything
for their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than
one dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more
severe. Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider
themselves kings and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone
who does it in any way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lèse
Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the
worsening problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against
animals, however minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess
all over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common
sight in common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes.
You cannot eat in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on
leftover food to have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the
tables. They also flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on
cooked and uncooked food. Stray cats fight for food dropped on to
floors. Having a meal in an open area is worse. It has become a health
hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human
beings in order to be kind to animals?

The debate will be an on-going one predicated on how an individual values a pet.
To a non-pet lover, a dog, cat, or rabbit, is an animal that may be a
pest, or can be ignored or worse/best to be eaten.
However, to a pet lover, the pet is part of the family.
There is a big gulf separating pest, food to family. If one person stands
at the pest side and another person stands at the family end ... war will
soon ensue.

You are muddle-headed. There should be no debate about what is pet and what
is pest. Strays are pests. They should be eliminated by all means.

If only pet lovers have considered pets as part of their families. They only
consider the pet to be something for them to toy around. If a pet is a part
of family, it would be looked after till death. In that case, there would be
no strays.

[anime animal]

Post by spacer
Any idea what is your best option on animals?

Post by SuperPET

Post by f***@gmail.com
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a
GRC, those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything
for their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than
one dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more
severe. Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider
themselves kings and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone
who does it in any way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lèse
Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the
worsening problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against
animals, however minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess
all over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common
sight in common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes.
You cannot eat in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on
leftover food to have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the
tables. They also flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on
cooked and uncooked food. Stray cats fight for food dropped on to
floors. Having a meal in an open area is worse. It has become a health
hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human
beings in order to be kind to animals?

The debate will be an on-going one predicated on how an individual values a pet.
To a non-pet lover, a dog, cat, or rabbit, is an animal that may be a
pest, or can be ignored or worse/best to be eaten.
However, to a pet lover, the pet is part of the family.
There is a big gulf separating pest, food to family. If one person stands
at the pest side and another person stands at the family end ... war will
soon ensue.

You are muddle-headed. There should be no debate about what is pet and what
is pest. Strays are pests. They should be eliminated by all means.
If only pet lovers have considered pets as part of their families. They only
consider the pet to be something for them to toy around. If a pet is a part
of family, it would be looked after till death. In that case, there would be
no strays.

The best option:
1. Bring the population of strays down to zilch.
2. Control the population of wild animals.
3. Stop the trading of animals.

[spacer]

The options mentioned were known to the NEA and AVA, but there seems there
were foreigners from countries, where their pigeons were treated like nature
animals were allowed to roam freely and defecate on anywhere, advocated to
them to leave them alone.

Can the NEA and AVE explain why did their govt ministers have to bide the
calls to leave them alone?.

These NEA and AVE seem disinterested in addressing them even after the call
is made to them on the pigeons and mynahs defecating from the tree branches
and on ledges, and hawker tables and even on the back frame of the plastic
chair.

As these birds loiter on hawker chairs and tables, in coffee shops and
hawker centers and even food courts, flying and hovering above them, picking
at foods at the next table, unafraid of their close proximity with people
eating at their tables.

Even public or stall holder is not allowed to catch or trap them or even to
poison them is not allowed. If the govt is disinterested to curb them, why
can't they let these owners of coffee shop and food court, and stalls
holders in hawker center to employ their own people of catching and
entrapping these pests.

Since there have been so many unemployed people walking and roaming around
at those eating places, but doing nothing there, why can't they be hired to
do the elimination on these really nuisance and dirty birds.

Why did the Pm did nothing to address the unsolved problem as he should know
they are dangerous to the health of the peoples. it costs a lot of the
people's medisave money to get themselves treated of avian virus flu
transmitted through foods and breathing from them. ..

Post by spacer
Any idea what is your best option on animals?

Post by SuperPET

Post by f***@gmail.com
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a
GRC, those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything
for their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than
one dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more
severe. Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider
themselves kings and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone
who does it in any way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lèse
Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the
worsening problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against
animals, however minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess
all over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common
sight in common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes.
You cannot eat in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on
leftover food to have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the
tables. They also flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on
cooked and uncooked food. Stray cats fight for food dropped on to
floors. Having a meal in an open area is worse. It has become a health
hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human
beings in order to be kind to animals?

The debate will be an on-going one predicated on how an individual
values
a pet.
To a non-pet lover, a dog, cat, or rabbit, is an animal that may be a
pest, or can be ignored or worse/best to be eaten.
However, to a pet lover, the pet is part of the family.
There is a big gulf separating pest, food to family. If one person stands
at the pest side and another person stands at the family end ... war will
soon ensue.

You are muddle-headed. There should be no debate about what is pet and what
is pest. Strays are pests. They should be eliminated by all means.
If only pet lovers have considered pets as part of their families. They only
consider the pet to be something for them to toy around. If a pet is a part
of family, it would be looked after till death. In that case, there would be
no strays.

The best option:
1. Bring the population of strays down to zilch.
2. Control the population of wild animals.
3. Stop the trading of animals.

[w***@gmail.com]

Post by spacer
The options mentioned were known to the NEA and AVA, but there seems there
were foreigners from countries, where their pigeons were treated like nature
animals were allowed to roam freely and defecate on anywhere, advocated to
them to leave them alone.
Can the NEA and AVE explain why did their govt ministers have to bide the
calls to leave them alone?.
These NEA and AVE seem disinterested in addressing them even after the call
is made to them on the pigeons and mynahs defecating from the tree branches
and on ledges, and hawker tables and even on the back frame of the plastic
chair.
As these birds loiter on hawker chairs and tables, in coffee shops and
hawker centers and even food courts, flying and hovering above them, picking
at foods at the next table, unafraid of their close proximity with people
eating at their tables.
Even public or stall holder is not allowed to catch or trap them or even to
poison them is not allowed. If the govt is disinterested to curb them, why
can't they let these owners of coffee shop and food court, and stalls
holders in hawker center to employ their own people of catching and
entrapping these pests.
Since there have been so many unemployed people walking and roaming around
at those eating places, but doing nothing there, why can't they be hired to
do the elimination on these really nuisance and dirty birds.
Why did the Pm did nothing to address the unsolved problem as he should know
they are dangerous to the health of the peoples. it costs a lot of the
people's medisave money to get themselves treated of avian virus flu
transmitted through foods and breathing from them. ..

Post by spacer
Any idea what is your best option on animals?

Post by SuperPET

Post by f***@gmail.com
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a
GRC, those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything
for their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than
one dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more
severe. Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider
themselves kings and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone
who does it in any way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lèse
Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the
worsening problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against
animals, however minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess
all over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common
sight in common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes.
You cannot eat in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on
leftover food to have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the
tables. They also flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on
cooked and uncooked food. Stray cats fight for food dropped on to
floors. Having a meal in an open area is worse. It has become a health
hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human
beings in order to be kind to animals?

The debate will be an on-going one predicated on how an individual
values
a pet.
To a non-pet lover, a dog, cat, or rabbit, is an animal that may be a
pest, or can be ignored or worse/best to be eaten.
However, to a pet lover, the pet is part of the family.
There is a big gulf separating pest, food to family. If one person stands
at the pest side and another person stands at the family end ... war will
soon ensue.

You are muddle-headed. There should be no debate about what is pet and what
is pest. Strays are pests. They should be eliminated by all means.
If only pet lovers have considered pets as part of their families. They only
consider the pet to be something for them to toy around. If a pet is a part
of family, it would be looked after till death. In that case, there would be
no strays.

1. Bring the population of strays down to zilch.
2. Control the population of wild animals.
3. Stop the trading of animals.

One important option missed.
Have laws which severely punish those found to be irresponsible in their ownership of pets, e.g., abandoning them.

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From march 1, 2017, the owner has to register the transfer or sale of his
dog to the next buyer or owner. This is to ensure there is traceability of
owner from one ownership to the another ownership

This belated should have been done long ago. It seems to me is the people
who wrote the rules previously were not interested in the process of how
their rules could create a loophole.

The loophole created in the rules will not change, could be for many years,
until the problem of unaccountable of owners of their ownership of their dog
surfaces for action.

Post by spacer
The options mentioned were known to the NEA and AVA, but there seems there
were foreigners from countries, where their pigeons were treated like nature
animals were allowed to roam freely and defecate on anywhere, advocated to
them to leave them alone.
Can the NEA and AVE explain why did their govt ministers have to bide the
calls to leave them alone?.
These NEA and AVE seem disinterested in addressing them even after the call
is made to them on the pigeons and mynahs defecating from the tree branches
and on ledges, and hawker tables and even on the back frame of the plastic
chair.
As these birds loiter on hawker chairs and tables, in coffee shops and
hawker centers and even food courts, flying and hovering above them, picking
at foods at the next table, unafraid of their close proximity with people
eating at their tables.
Even public or stall holder is not allowed to catch or trap them or even to
poison them is not allowed. If the govt is disinterested to curb them, why
can't they let these owners of coffee shop and food court, and stalls
holders in hawker center to employ their own people of catching and
entrapping these pests.
Since there have been so many unemployed people walking and roaming around
at those eating places, but doing nothing there, why can't they be hired to
do the elimination on these really nuisance and dirty birds.
Why did the Pm did nothing to address the unsolved problem as he should know
they are dangerous to the health of the peoples. it costs a lot of the
people's medisave money to get themselves treated of avian virus flu
transmitted through foods and breathing from them. ..

Post by spacer
Any idea what is your best option on animals?

Post by SuperPET

Post by f***@gmail.com
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a
GRC, those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything
for their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than
one dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more
severe. Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider
themselves kings and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone
who does it in any way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lèse
Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the
worsening problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against
animals, however minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess
all over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common
sight in common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes.
You cannot eat in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons
settle
on
leftover food to have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the
tables. They also flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on
cooked and uncooked food. Stray cats fight for food dropped on to
floors. Having a meal in an open area is worse. It has become a health
hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human
beings in order to be kind to animals?

The debate will be an on-going one predicated on how an individual
values
a pet.
To a non-pet lover, a dog, cat, or rabbit, is an animal that may be a
pest, or can be ignored or worse/best to be eaten.
However, to a pet lover, the pet is part of the family.
There is a big gulf separating pest, food to family. If one person stands
at the pest side and another person stands at the family end ... war will
soon ensue.

You are muddle-headed. There should be no debate about what is pet and what
is pest. Strays are pests. They should be eliminated by all means.
If only pet lovers have considered pets as part of their families. They only
consider the pet to be something for them to toy around. If a pet is a part
of family, it would be looked after till death. In that case, there
would
be
no strays.

1. Bring the population of strays down to zilch.
2. Control the population of wild animals.
3. Stop the trading of animals.

One important option missed.
Have laws which severely punish those found to be irresponsible in their
ownership of pets, e.g., abandoning them.

[spacer]

A GPS tag to the dog should be introduced and should be made mandatory to
the owner or SPCA of th dog to find the location of the position of the dag.

Post by spacer
The options mentioned were known to the NEA and AVA, but there seems there
were foreigners from countries, where their pigeons were treated like nature
animals were allowed to roam freely and defecate on anywhere, advocated to
them to leave them alone.
Can the NEA and AVE explain why did their govt ministers have to bide the
calls to leave them alone?.
These NEA and AVE seem disinterested in addressing them even after the call
is made to them on the pigeons and mynahs defecating from the tree branches
and on ledges, and hawker tables and even on the back frame of the plastic
chair.
As these birds loiter on hawker chairs and tables, in coffee shops and
hawker centers and even food courts, flying and hovering above them, picking
at foods at the next table, unafraid of their close proximity with people
eating at their tables.
Even public or stall holder is not allowed to catch or trap them or even to
poison them is not allowed. If the govt is disinterested to curb them, why
can't they let these owners of coffee shop and food court, and stalls
holders in hawker center to employ their own people of catching and
entrapping these pests.
Since there have been so many unemployed people walking and roaming around
at those eating places, but doing nothing there, why can't they be hired to
do the elimination on these really nuisance and dirty birds.
Why did the Pm did nothing to address the unsolved problem as he should know
they are dangerous to the health of the peoples. it costs a lot of the
people's medisave money to get themselves treated of avian virus flu
transmitted through foods and breathing from them. ..

Post by spacer
Any idea what is your best option on animals?

Post by SuperPET

Post by f***@gmail.com
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a
GRC, those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything
for their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than
one dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more
severe. Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider
themselves kings and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone
who does it in any way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lèse
Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the
worsening problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against
animals, however minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess
all over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common
sight in common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes.
You cannot eat in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons
settle
on
leftover food to have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the
tables. They also flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on
cooked and uncooked food. Stray cats fight for food dropped on to
floors. Having a meal in an open area is worse. It has become a health
hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human
beings in order to be kind to animals?

The debate will be an on-going one predicated on how an individual
values
a pet.
To a non-pet lover, a dog, cat, or rabbit, is an animal that may be a
pest, or can be ignored or worse/best to be eaten.
However, to a pet lover, the pet is part of the family.
There is a big gulf separating pest, food to family. If one person stands
at the pest side and another person stands at the family end ... war will
soon ensue.

You are muddle-headed. There should be no debate about what is pet and what
is pest. Strays are pests. They should be eliminated by all means.
If only pet lovers have considered pets as part of their families. They only
consider the pet to be something for them to toy around. If a pet is a part
of family, it would be looked after till death. In that case, there
would
be
no strays.

1. Bring the population of strays down to zilch.
2. Control the population of wild animals.
3. Stop the trading of animals.

One important option missed.
Have laws which severely punish those found to be irresponsible in their
ownership of pets, e.g., abandoning them.

[spacer]

tracking device

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A GPS tag to the dog should be introduced and should be made mandatory to
the owner or SPCA of th dog to find the location of the position of the dag.

Post by spacer
The options mentioned were known to the NEA and AVA, but there seems there
were foreigners from countries, where their pigeons were treated like nature
animals were allowed to roam freely and defecate on anywhere, advocated to
them to leave them alone.
Can the NEA and AVE explain why did their govt ministers have to bide the
calls to leave them alone?.
These NEA and AVE seem disinterested in addressing them even after the call
is made to them on the pigeons and mynahs defecating from the tree branches
and on ledges, and hawker tables and even on the back frame of the plastic
chair.
As these birds loiter on hawker chairs and tables, in coffee shops and
hawker centers and even food courts, flying and hovering above them, picking
at foods at the next table, unafraid of their close proximity with people
eating at their tables.
Even public or stall holder is not allowed to catch or trap them or even to
poison them is not allowed. If the govt is disinterested to curb them, why
can't they let these owners of coffee shop and food court, and stalls
holders in hawker center to employ their own people of catching and
entrapping these pests.
Since there have been so many unemployed people walking and roaming around
at those eating places, but doing nothing there, why can't they be hired to
do the elimination on these really nuisance and dirty birds.
Why did the Pm did nothing to address the unsolved problem as he should know
they are dangerous to the health of the peoples. it costs a lot of the
people's medisave money to get themselves treated of avian virus flu
transmitted through foods and breathing from them. ..

Post by spacer
Any idea what is your best option on animals?

Post by SuperPET

Post by f***@gmail.com
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a
GRC, those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything
for their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than
one dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more
severe. Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider
themselves kings and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone
who does it in any way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lèse
Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the
worsening problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against
animals, however minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess
all over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common
sight in common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes.
You cannot eat in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons
settle
on
leftover food to have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the
tables. They also flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on
cooked and uncooked food. Stray cats fight for food dropped on to
floors. Having a meal in an open area is worse. It has become a health
hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human
beings in order to be kind to animals?

The debate will be an on-going one predicated on how an individual
values
a pet.
To a non-pet lover, a dog, cat, or rabbit, is an animal that may be a
pest, or can be ignored or worse/best to be eaten.
However, to a pet lover, the pet is part of the family.
There is a big gulf separating pest, food to family. If one person stands
at the pest side and another person stands at the family end ... war will
soon ensue.

You are muddle-headed. There should be no debate about what is pet and what
is pest. Strays are pests. They should be eliminated by all means.
If only pet lovers have considered pets as part of their families. They only
consider the pet to be something for them to toy around. If a pet is a part
of family, it would be looked after till death. In that case, there
would
be
no strays.

1. Bring the population of strays down to zilch.
2. Control the population of wild animals.
3. Stop the trading of animals.

One important option missed.
Have laws which severely punish those found to be irresponsible in their
ownership of pets, e.g., abandoning them.

[spacer]

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A GPS tag to the dog should be introduced and should be made mandatory to
the owner or SPCA of th dog to find the location of the position of the dag.

Post by spacer
The options mentioned were known to the NEA and AVA, but there seems there
were foreigners from countries, where their pigeons were treated like nature
animals were allowed to roam freely and defecate on anywhere, advocated to
them to leave them alone.
Can the NEA and AVE explain why did their govt ministers have to bide the
calls to leave them alone?.
These NEA and AVE seem disinterested in addressing them even after the call
is made to them on the pigeons and mynahs defecating from the tree branches
and on ledges, and hawker tables and even on the back frame of the plastic
chair.
As these birds loiter on hawker chairs and tables, in coffee shops and
hawker centers and even food courts, flying and hovering above them, picking
at foods at the next table, unafraid of their close proximity with people
eating at their tables.
Even public or stall holder is not allowed to catch or trap them or even to
poison them is not allowed. If the govt is disinterested to curb them, why
can't they let these owners of coffee shop and food court, and stalls
holders in hawker center to employ their own people of catching and
entrapping these pests.
Since there have been so many unemployed people walking and roaming around
at those eating places, but doing nothing there, why can't they be hired to
do the elimination on these really nuisance and dirty birds.
Why did the Pm did nothing to address the unsolved problem as he should know
they are dangerous to the health of the peoples. it costs a lot of the
people's medisave money to get themselves treated of avian virus flu
transmitted through foods and breathing from them. ..

Post by spacer
Any idea what is your best option on animals?

Post by SuperPET

Post by f***@gmail.com
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a
GRC, those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything
for their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than
one dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more
severe. Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider
themselves kings and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone
who does it in any way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lèse
Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the
worsening problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against
animals, however minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess
all over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common
sight in common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes.
You cannot eat in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons
settle
on
leftover food to have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the
tables. They also flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on
cooked and uncooked food. Stray cats fight for food dropped on to
floors. Having a meal in an open area is worse. It has become a health
hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human
beings in order to be kind to animals?

The debate will be an on-going one predicated on how an individual
values
a pet.
To a non-pet lover, a dog, cat, or rabbit, is an animal that may be a
pest, or can be ignored or worse/best to be eaten.
However, to a pet lover, the pet is part of the family.
There is a big gulf separating pest, food to family. If one person stands
at the pest side and another person stands at the family end ... war will
soon ensue.

You are muddle-headed. There should be no debate about what is pet and what
is pest. Strays are pests. They should be eliminated by all means.
If only pet lovers have considered pets as part of their families. They only
consider the pet to be something for them to toy around. If a pet is a part
of family, it would be looked after till death. In that case, there
would
be
no strays.

1. Bring the population of strays down to zilch.
2. Control the population of wild animals.
3. Stop the trading of animals.

One important option missed.
Have laws which severely punish those found to be irresponsible in their
ownership of pets, e.g., abandoning them.

[independent individual]

It is called respecting animal rights. It is a global movement to protect and love animals. The Minister and MP are doing the right thing.

[w***@gmail.com]

Post by independent individual
It is called respecting animal rights. It is a global movement to protect and love animals. The Minister and MP are doing the right thing.

What a stupid human you are! What respect? What animal rights? What do animals know about respect and rights? Will animals know how to respect we human and our rights? There is no such thing as a global movement to protect and love animals. There are just fools around the world who have nothing better to do.

No wonder your life is in such a mess. Are you hoping to get any free lunch from those animal welfare NGOs? You will first have to convince them that you are an animal.

[w***@gmail.com]

Post by w***@gmail.com

Post by independent individual
It is called respecting animal rights. It is a global movement to protect and love animals. The Minister and MP are doing the right thing.

What a stupid human you are! What respect? What animal rights? What do animals know about respect and rights? Will animals know how to respect we human and our rights? There is no such thing as a global movement to protect and love animals. There are just fools around the world who have nothing better to do.
No wonder your life is in such a mess. Are you hoping to get any free lunch from those animal welfare NGOs? You will first have to convince them that you are an animal.

Recently, in Yisun, some stray cats were found dead with evidence of foul play. Cat lovers straight away suspect its the work of some humans. Upon investigation, CCTV shows that one stray cat was killed by stray dogs.

When humans kill strays, they are charged in court. Now that stray dogs have killed a cat, how will animal lovers settle this? Cull the stray dogs, dogs lovers will cry foul. Leave them alone, cat lovers will cry foul. The right solution is to cull all strays. Does the authority havethe strength to face up to the hysterical protests of cats and dogs lovers when this is carried out?

There are many other problems with strays.
1. Even small dogs held on leashes by the owners have been known to be attacked by bigger sized stray dogs.

2.Owners are allowing their dogs to urinate in public. Beside trees and plants, the base of lamp posts and signboards are the dogs' favorite spots. Many lamp posts and signboards are so corroded that they are in danger of falling down. They may not be as big or as heavy as a tembusu tree, but falling lamp posts and signboards can kill too.

We have become a soft society. This brings with it many repercussions.

[chicken talk]

Post by w***@gmail.com

Post by w***@gmail.com

Post by independent individual
It is called respecting animal rights. It is a global movement to protect and love animals. The Minister and MP are doing the right thing.

What a stupid human you are! What respect? What animal rights? What do animals know about respect and rights? Will animals know how to respect we human and our rights? There is no such thing as a global movement to protect and love animals. There are just fools around the world who have nothing better to do.
No wonder your life is in such a mess. Are you hoping to get any free lunch from those animal welfare NGOs? You will first have to convince them that you are an animal.

Recently, in Yisun, some stray cats were found dead with evidence of foul play. Cat lovers straight away suspect its the work of some humans. Upon investigation, CCTV shows that one stray cat was killed by stray dogs.
When humans kill strays, they are charged in court. Now that stray dogs have killed a cat, how will animal lovers settle this? Cull the stray dogs, dogs lovers will cry foul. Leave them alone, cat lovers will cry foul. The right solution is to cull all strays. Does the authority havethe strength to face up to the hysterical protests of cats and dogs lovers when this is carried out?
There are many other problems with strays.
1. Even small dogs held on leashes by the owners have been known to be attacked by bigger sized stray dogs.
2.Owners are allowing their dogs to urinate in public. Beside trees and plants, the base of lamp posts and signboards are the dogs' favorite spots. Many lamp posts and signboards are so corroded that they are in danger of falling down. They may not be as big or as heavy as a tembusu tree, but falling lamp posts and signboards can kill too.
We have become a soft society. This brings with it many repercussions.

http://www.todayonline.com/voices/why-was-periodic-culling-not-considered-if-chickens-were-threat

This writer is stupid. Just culling a few fowls and she is crying foul. Yet she asked why AVA was not doing culling regularly. This was what AVA was doing before and people like her screamed “murder!”. This is a lesson for AVA and other public authorities. It does not pay to be weak in the face of unreasonable protests. The same protesters will come back to accuse you of not doing your job. AVA should be more steadfast in carrying out culling of stray animals and those causing public nuisance. These are a threat to public health. Public health is more important than the lives of strays.

Over the years, AVA has weaken in the face of protest and become lax in carrying out its duties. As a result, population of strays of all sorts are exploding. Stray dogs and cats are common sights. Pigeons, mynahs crows, sparrows are everywhere, in open as well as air-conditioned eating places.

Fowls are being purposely released to public places. Suddenly, cockerels and hens are appearing in nature parks around the country. NPB should take note of this. Isn't it an offense for anyone to release animals in public places? People have been advised against doing it, even as a religious rite, as during Vesak Day.

Those who profess to love animals think they are on high moral ground because they are showing love. This is only half the story. The other half is that they hate humans. They don't care what harm animals can do to their fellow human beings. They are animal lovers but human haters.

Public authorities should always place the welfare of human above that of animals and their human lovers.

[Russ]

Those chicken and dogs and cats are people who put them there to run and
loiter and defecate.

When they put them there, the public and AVA deemed, the people abandoned
their pets.

Therefore, the public and AVE should not think these animals were dropped
from the sky, but were placed there, and they became the loitering animals
in the vicinity.

There is good bad, but when they made too much noise or when they defecate
every where, and when they intrude into public spaces, their problems become
an irritation to the people.

Post by w***@gmail.com

On Saturday, 4 February 2017 11:08:05 UTC+8, independent individual

Post by independent individual
It is called respecting animal rights. It is a global movement to
protect and love animals. The Minister and MP are doing the right
thing.

What a stupid human you are! What respect? What animal rights? What do
animals know about respect and rights? Will animals know how to respect
we human and our rights? There is no such thing as a global movement to
protect and love animals. There are just fools around the world who have
nothing better to do.
No wonder your life is in such a mess. Are you hoping to get any free
lunch from those animal welfare NGOs? You will first have to convince
them that you are an animal.

Recently, in Yisun, some stray cats were found dead with evidence of foul
play. Cat lovers straight away suspect its the work of some humans. Upon
investigation, CCTV shows that one stray cat was killed by stray dogs.
When humans kill strays, they are charged in court. Now that stray dogs
have killed a cat, how will animal lovers settle this? Cull the stray
dogs, dogs lovers will cry foul. Leave them alone, cat lovers will cry
foul. The right solution is to cull all strays. Does the authority havethe
strength to face up to the hysterical protests of cats and dogs lovers
when this is carried out?
There are many other problems with strays.
1. Even small dogs held on leashes by the owners have been known to be
attacked by bigger sized stray dogs.
2.Owners are allowing their dogs to urinate in public. Beside trees and
plants, the base of lamp posts and signboards are the dogs' favorite
spots. Many lamp posts and signboards are so corroded that they are in
danger of falling down. They may not be as big or as heavy as a tembusu
tree, but falling lamp posts and signboards can kill too.
We have become a soft society. This brings with it many repercussions.

http://www.todayonline.com/voices/why-was-periodic-culling-not-considered-if-chickens-were-threat

This writer is stupid. Just culling a few fowls and she is crying foul. Yet
she asked why AVA was not doing culling regularly. This was what AVA was
doing before and people like her screamed “murder!”. This is a lesson for
AVA and other public authorities. It does not pay to be weak in the face of
unreasonable protests. The same protesters will come back to accuse you of
not doing your job. AVA should be more steadfast in carrying out culling of
stray animals and those causing public nuisance. These are a threat to
public health. Public health is more important than the lives of strays.

Over the years, AVA has weaken in the face of protest and become lax in
carrying out its duties. As a result, population of strays of all sorts are
exploding. Stray dogs and cats are common sights. Pigeons, mynahs crows,
sparrows are everywhere, in open as well as air-conditioned eating places.

Fowls are being purposely released to public places. Suddenly, cockerels
and hens are appearing in nature parks around the country. NPB should take
note of this. Isn't it an offense for anyone to release animals in public
places? People have been advised against doing it, even as a religious
rite, as during Vesak Day.

Those who profess to love animals think they are on high moral ground
because they are showing love. This is only half the story. The other half
is that they hate humans. They don't care what harm animals can do to their
fellow human beings. They are animal lovers but human haters.

Public authorities should always place the welfare of human above that of
animals and their human lovers.

[wild bird]

Post by Russ
Those chicken and dogs and cats are people who put them there to run and
loiter and defecate.
When they put them there, the public and AVA deemed, the people abandoned
their pets.
Therefore, the public and AVE should not think these animals were dropped
from the sky, but were placed there, and they became the loitering animals
in the vicinity.
There is good bad, but when they made too much noise or when they defecate
every where, and when they intrude into public spaces, their problems become
an irritation to the people.

Post by w***@gmail.com

On Saturday, 4 February 2017 11:08:05 UTC+8, independent individual

Post by independent individual
It is called respecting animal rights. It is a global movement to
protect and love animals. The Minister and MP are doing the right
thing.

What a stupid human you are! What respect? What animal rights? What do
animals know about respect and rights? Will animals know how to respect
we human and our rights? There is no such thing as a global movement to
protect and love animals. There are just fools around the world who have
nothing better to do.
No wonder your life is in such a mess. Are you hoping to get any free
lunch from those animal welfare NGOs? You will first have to convince
them that you are an animal.

Recently, in Yisun, some stray cats were found dead with evidence of foul
play. Cat lovers straight away suspect its the work of some humans. Upon
investigation, CCTV shows that one stray cat was killed by stray dogs.
When humans kill strays, they are charged in court. Now that stray dogs
have killed a cat, how will animal lovers settle this? Cull the stray
dogs, dogs lovers will cry foul. Leave them alone, cat lovers will cry
foul. The right solution is to cull all strays. Does the authority havethe
strength to face up to the hysterical protests of cats and dogs lovers
when this is carried out?
There are many other problems with strays.
1. Even small dogs held on leashes by the owners have been known to be
attacked by bigger sized stray dogs.
2.Owners are allowing their dogs to urinate in public. Beside trees and
plants, the base of lamp posts and signboards are the dogs' favorite
spots. Many lamp posts and signboards are so corroded that they are in
danger of falling down. They may not be as big or as heavy as a tembusu
tree, but falling lamp posts and signboards can kill too.
We have become a soft society. This brings with it many repercussions.

http://www.todayonline.com/voices/why-was-periodic-culling-not-considered-if-chickens-were-threat
This writer is stupid. Just culling a few fowls and she is crying foul. Yet
she asked why AVA was not doing culling regularly. This was what AVA was
doing before and people like her screamed “murder!”. This is a lesson for
AVA and other public authorities. It does not pay to be weak in the face of
unreasonable protests. The same protesters will come back to accuse you of
not doing your job. AVA should be more steadfast in carrying out culling of
stray animals and those causing public nuisance. These are a threat to
public health. Public health is more important than the lives of strays.
Over the years, AVA has weaken in the face of protest and become lax in
carrying out its duties. As a result, population of strays of all sorts are
exploding. Stray dogs and cats are common sights. Pigeons, mynahs crows,
sparrows are everywhere, in open as well as air-conditioned eating places.
Fowls are being purposely released to public places. Suddenly, cockerels
and hens are appearing in nature parks around the country. NPB should take
note of this. Isn't it an offense for anyone to release animals in public
places? People have been advised against doing it, even as a religious
rite, as during Vesak Day.
Those who profess to love animals think they are on high moral ground
because they are showing love. This is only half the story. The other half
is that they hate humans. They don't care what harm animals can do to their
fellow human beings. They are animal lovers but human haters.
Public authorities should always place the welfare of human above that of
animals and their human lovers.

http://www.todayonline.com/voices/experts-dont-recommend-culling-wild-birds

Another idiotic animal lover.

The UN report cannot possibly deal with every situation that may occur around the world. It does not know that there would be free roaming chickens in a congested city, close to the living quarters of humans.

The chicks in this case are not roaming freely in uninhabited area. They are roaming freely only within a small compound surrounded by human habitats. Chickens in such a situation cannot be considered wild birds. Culling them is not culling wild birds.

[Russ]

The UN says and so was their people who wrote them say so. However, SG
should not listen to UN of every aspect of their explanation. What is the
needs for the Govt is to set it free.

Post by Russ
Those chicken and dogs and cats are people who put them there to run and
loiter and defecate.
When they put them there, the public and AVA deemed, the people abandoned
their pets.
Therefore, the public and AVE should not think these animals were dropped
from the sky, but were placed there, and they became the loitering animals
in the vicinity.
There is good bad, but when they made too much noise or when they defecate
every where, and when they intrude into public spaces, their problems become
an irritation to the people.

Post by w***@gmail.com

On Saturday, 4 February 2017 11:08:05 UTC+8, independent individual

Post by independent individual
It is called respecting animal rights. It is a global movement to
protect and love animals. The Minister and MP are doing the right
thing.

What a stupid human you are! What respect? What animal rights? What do
animals know about respect and rights? Will animals know how to respect
we human and our rights? There is no such thing as a global movement to
protect and love animals. There are just fools around the world who have
nothing better to do.
No wonder your life is in such a mess. Are you hoping to get any free
lunch from those animal welfare NGOs? You will first have to convince
them that you are an animal.

Recently, in Yisun, some stray cats were found dead with evidence of foul
play. Cat lovers straight away suspect its the work of some humans. Upon
investigation, CCTV shows that one stray cat was killed by stray dogs.
When humans kill strays, they are charged in court. Now that stray dogs
have killed a cat, how will animal lovers settle this? Cull the stray
dogs, dogs lovers will cry foul. Leave them alone, cat lovers will cry
foul. The right solution is to cull all strays. Does the authority havethe
strength to face up to the hysterical protests of cats and dogs lovers
when this is carried out?
There are many other problems with strays.
1. Even small dogs held on leashes by the owners have been known to be
attacked by bigger sized stray dogs.
2.Owners are allowing their dogs to urinate in public. Beside trees and
plants, the base of lamp posts and signboards are the dogs' favorite
spots. Many lamp posts and signboards are so corroded that they are in
danger of falling down. They may not be as big or as heavy as a tembusu
tree, but falling lamp posts and signboards can kill too.
We have become a soft society. This brings with it many repercussions.

http://www.todayonline.com/voices/why-was-periodic-culling-not-considered-if-chickens-were-threat
This writer is stupid. Just culling a few fowls and she is crying foul. Yet
she asked why AVA was not doing culling regularly. This was what AVA was
doing before and people like her screamed “murder!”. This is a lesson for
AVA and other public authorities. It does not pay to be weak in the face of
unreasonable protests. The same protesters will come back to accuse you of
not doing your job. AVA should be more steadfast in carrying out culling of
stray animals and those causing public nuisance. These are a threat to
public health. Public health is more important than the lives of strays.
Over the years, AVA has weaken in the face of protest and become lax in
carrying out its duties. As a result, population of strays of all sorts are
exploding. Stray dogs and cats are common sights. Pigeons, mynahs crows,
sparrows are everywhere, in open as well as air-conditioned eating places.
Fowls are being purposely released to public places. Suddenly, cockerels
and hens are appearing in nature parks around the country. NPB should take
note of this. Isn't it an offense for anyone to release animals in public
places? People have been advised against doing it, even as a religious
rite, as during Vesak Day.
Those who profess to love animals think they are on high moral ground
because they are showing love. This is only half the story. The other half
is that they hate humans. They don't care what harm animals can do to their
fellow human beings. They are animal lovers but human haters.
Public authorities should always place the welfare of human above that of
animals and their human lovers.

http://www.todayonline.com/voices/experts-dont-recommend-culling-wild-birds

Another idiotic animal lover.

The UN report cannot possibly deal with every situation that may occur
around the world. It does not know that there would be free roaming chickens
in a congested city, close to the living quarters of humans.

The chicks in this case are not roaming freely in uninhabited area. They are
roaming freely only within a small compound surrounded by human habitats.
Chickens in such a situation cannot be considered wild birds. Culling them
is not culling wild birds.

[l***@gmail.com]

Post by Russ
The UN says and so was their people who wrote them say so. However, SG
should not listen to UN of every aspect of their explanation. What is the
needs for the Govt is to set it free.

Post by Russ
Those chicken and dogs and cats are people who put them there to run and
loiter and defecate.
When they put them there, the public and AVA deemed, the people abandoned
their pets.
Therefore, the public and AVE should not think these animals were dropped
from the sky, but were placed there, and they became the loitering animals
in the vicinity.
There is good bad, but when they made too much noise or when they defecate
every where, and when they intrude into public spaces, their problems become
an irritation to the people.

Post by w***@gmail.com

On Saturday, 4 February 2017 11:08:05 UTC+8, independent individual

Post by independent individual
It is called respecting animal rights. It is a global movement to
protect and love animals. The Minister and MP are doing the right
thing.

What a stupid human you are! What respect? What animal rights? What do
animals know about respect and rights? Will animals know how to respect
we human and our rights? There is no such thing as a global movement to
protect and love animals. There are just fools around the world who have
nothing better to do.
No wonder your life is in such a mess. Are you hoping to get any free
lunch from those animal welfare NGOs? You will first have to convince
them that you are an animal.

Recently, in Yisun, some stray cats were found dead with evidence of foul
play. Cat lovers straight away suspect its the work of some humans. Upon
investigation, CCTV shows that one stray cat was killed by stray dogs.
When humans kill strays, they are charged in court. Now that stray dogs
have killed a cat, how will animal lovers settle this? Cull the stray
dogs, dogs lovers will cry foul. Leave them alone, cat lovers will cry
foul. The right solution is to cull all strays. Does the authority havethe
strength to face up to the hysterical protests of cats and dogs lovers
when this is carried out?
There are many other problems with strays.
1. Even small dogs held on leashes by the owners have been known to be
attacked by bigger sized stray dogs.
2.Owners are allowing their dogs to urinate in public. Beside trees and
plants, the base of lamp posts and signboards are the dogs' favorite
spots. Many lamp posts and signboards are so corroded that they are in
danger of falling down. They may not be as big or as heavy as a tembusu
tree, but falling lamp posts and signboards can kill too.
We have become a soft society. This brings with it many repercussions.

http://www.todayonline.com/voices/why-was-periodic-culling-not-considered-if-chickens-were-threat
This writer is stupid. Just culling a few fowls and she is crying foul. Yet
she asked why AVA was not doing culling regularly. This was what AVA was
doing before and people like her screamed “murder!”. This is a lesson for
AVA and other public authorities. It does not pay to be weak in the face of
unreasonable protests. The same protesters will come back to accuse you of
not doing your job. AVA should be more steadfast in carrying out culling of
stray animals and those causing public nuisance. These are a threat to
public health. Public health is more important than the lives of strays.
Over the years, AVA has weaken in the face of protest and become lax in
carrying out its duties. As a result, population of strays of all sorts are
exploding. Stray dogs and cats are common sights. Pigeons, mynahs crows,
sparrows are everywhere, in open as well as air-conditioned eating places.
Fowls are being purposely released to public places. Suddenly, cockerels
and hens are appearing in nature parks around the country. NPB should take
note of this. Isn't it an offense for anyone to release animals in public
places? People have been advised against doing it, even as a religious
rite, as during Vesak Day.
Those who profess to love animals think they are on high moral ground
because they are showing love. This is only half the story. The other half
is that they hate humans. They don't care what harm animals can do to their
fellow human beings. They are animal lovers but human haters.
Public authorities should always place the welfare of human above that of
animals and their human lovers.

http://www.todayonline.com/voices/experts-dont-recommend-culling-wild-birds
Another idiotic animal lover.
The UN report cannot possibly deal with every situation that may occur
around the world. It does not know that there would be free roaming chickens
in a congested city, close to the living quarters of humans.
The chicks in this case are not roaming freely in uninhabited area. They are
roaming freely only within a small compound surrounded by human habitats.
Chickens in such a situation cannot be considered wild birds. Culling them
is not culling wild birds.

http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/big-read-animal-encounters-hit-headlines-divide-opens

Key points of the article:
Wilderness and wildlife within Singapore.
Scientific evidence required before culling.
Do not respond to the complaints of a vocal few.
Science and ecology of wildlife management.
Human encroaching on animals' space.



Let's not forget. Singapore occupies only a tiny fraction of spaceship earth. This tiny island has to serve as the living space for plants, animals and humans. How do these living things share the space and the resources, without causing harm to each other, without reducing the survivability of each other? How close should wilderness be to the general population? Only we humans have the intelligence to plan for these. Human population density on the island is high. Already, we humans have to make use of airspace by building vertically in addition to horizontally. Beside the problem of wildlife, there are also the problems of animals domesticated as pets. Compounding the problem further is the trading of animals as pets.

While a scientific approach to this complex problem is recommended, quite often a bit of common sense would suffice. Avoid creating the problem in the first place. Above all else, do not let our sentiments get the better of us.This has not been the case lately.

The social value of animal welfare has been on the rise ever since one champion of its cause, the founder of ACRES, becomes an MP. Following this, bigger breed of dogs are allowed in HDB and laws are passed to mete out more severe punishments on humans for harming animals. The media follows suit with an obvious bias towards animal welfare, unconditionally. As a result, more people are embolden to feed animals they find around them and more are abandoning their pets, all without any sense of guilt. In fact, they feel they can do it from a high moral ground now.

Does closer relationship between humans and animals make a better society? What has close contact between animals and humans brought about? Humans attacked by animals. Diseases. Throughout history, the human species have suffered from epidemic diseases spread through animals such as the plague, malaria, dengue fever, zika fever, avian flu, SARS, AIDS, etc..

While academics and animal welfare groups are recommending the scientific approach, they are also the ones vocal against it. Animals kept and traded as pets should be properly registered, from birth to death and all ownerships in between the two. To do this, electronics tagging would be effective. When the authorities suggest a wearable tag or a chip inserted into the animal for RFID, academics and animal welfare groups protested.


These same groups of people belief that those who provide feedback on problems encountered with animals are only a vocal few who like to complain and therefore the authorities should ignore them. These groups believe the authorities should not cull animals in response to the complaints. They want us to believe that culling is not effective. Really? If the culling rate is higher than the birth rate, it can even bring about extinction of a species! Those who demand more for animal welfares are the vocal few and most of their demands are unreasonable, unscientific and purely sentimental. They are the ones the authorities should ignore.

Beside the wilderness and the parks, there is also another green space which should get more attention, i.e., those green grounds within and around residential areas. They are being destroyed by foreigners playing their game of crickets. Excellent maintenance for these green spaces should be a priority because they are closest to the largest proportion of the population.

Lastly, our officials should be careful before they commit Singapore to any international agreement on animal protection or animal welfare. These are mostly initiated by Western countries. Unlike them, we do not have the luxury of wide land space.

[cullingworks]

Post by l***@gmail.com

Post by Russ
The UN says and so was their people who wrote them say so. However, SG
should not listen to UN of every aspect of their explanation. What is the
needs for the Govt is to set it free.

Post by Russ
Those chicken and dogs and cats are people who put them there to run and
loiter and defecate.
When they put them there, the public and AVA deemed, the people abandoned
their pets.
Therefore, the public and AVE should not think these animals were dropped
from the sky, but were placed there, and they became the loitering animals
in the vicinity.
There is good bad, but when they made too much noise or when they defecate
every where, and when they intrude into public spaces, their problems become
an irritation to the people.

Post by w***@gmail.com

On Saturday, 4 February 2017 11:08:05 UTC+8, independent individual

Post by independent individual
It is called respecting animal rights. It is a global movement to
protect and love animals. The Minister and MP are doing the right
thing.

What a stupid human you are! What respect? What animal rights? What do
animals know about respect and rights? Will animals know how to respect
we human and our rights? There is no such thing as a global movement to
protect and love animals. There are just fools around the world who have
nothing better to do.
No wonder your life is in such a mess. Are you hoping to get any free
lunch from those animal welfare NGOs? You will first have to convince
them that you are an animal.

Recently, in Yisun, some stray cats were found dead with evidence of foul
play. Cat lovers straight away suspect its the work of some humans. Upon
investigation, CCTV shows that one stray cat was killed by stray dogs.
When humans kill strays, they are charged in court. Now that stray dogs
have killed a cat, how will animal lovers settle this? Cull the stray
dogs, dogs lovers will cry foul. Leave them alone, cat lovers will cry
foul. The right solution is to cull all strays. Does the authority havethe
strength to face up to the hysterical protests of cats and dogs lovers
when this is carried out?
There are many other problems with strays.
1. Even small dogs held on leashes by the owners have been known to be
attacked by bigger sized stray dogs.
2.Owners are allowing their dogs to urinate in public. Beside trees and
plants, the base of lamp posts and signboards are the dogs' favorite
spots. Many lamp posts and signboards are so corroded that they are in
danger of falling down. They may not be as big or as heavy as a tembusu
tree, but falling lamp posts and signboards can kill too.
We have become a soft society. This brings with it many repercussions.

http://www.todayonline.com/voices/why-was-periodic-culling-not-considered-if-chickens-were-threat
This writer is stupid. Just culling a few fowls and she is crying foul. Yet
she asked why AVA was not doing culling regularly. This was what AVA was
doing before and people like her screamed “murder!”. This is a lesson for
AVA and other public authorities. It does not pay to be weak in the face of
unreasonable protests. The same protesters will come back to accuse you of
not doing your job. AVA should be more steadfast in carrying out culling of
stray animals and those causing public nuisance. These are a threat to
public health. Public health is more important than the lives of strays.
Over the years, AVA has weaken in the face of protest and become lax in
carrying out its duties. As a result, population of strays of all sorts are
exploding. Stray dogs and cats are common sights. Pigeons, mynahs crows,
sparrows are everywhere, in open as well as air-conditioned eating places.
Fowls are being purposely released to public places. Suddenly, cockerels
and hens are appearing in nature parks around the country. NPB should take
note of this. Isn't it an offense for anyone to release animals in public
places? People have been advised against doing it, even as a religious
rite, as during Vesak Day.
Those who profess to love animals think they are on high moral ground
because they are showing love. This is only half the story. The other half
is that they hate humans. They don't care what harm animals can do to their
fellow human beings. They are animal lovers but human haters.
Public authorities should always place the welfare of human above that of
animals and their human lovers.

http://www.todayonline.com/voices/experts-dont-recommend-culling-wild-birds
Another idiotic animal lover.
The UN report cannot possibly deal with every situation that may occur
around the world. It does not know that there would be free roaming chickens
in a congested city, close to the living quarters of humans.
The chicks in this case are not roaming freely in uninhabited area. They are
roaming freely only within a small compound surrounded by human habitats.
Chickens in such a situation cannot be considered wild birds. Culling them
is not culling wild birds.

http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/big-read-animal-encounters-hit-headlines-divide-opens
Wilderness and wildlife within Singapore.
Scientific evidence required before culling.
Do not respond to the complaints of a vocal few.
Science and ecology of wildlife management.
Human encroaching on animals' space.
Let's not forget. Singapore occupies only a tiny fraction of spaceship earth. This tiny island has to serve as the living space for plants, animals and humans. How do these living things share the space and the resources, without causing harm to each other, without reducing the survivability of each other? How close should wilderness be to the general population? Only we humans have the intelligence to plan for these. Human population density on the island is high. Already, we humans have to make use of airspace by building vertically in addition to horizontally. Beside the problem of wildlife, there are also the problems of animals domesticated as pets. Compounding the problem further is the trading of animals as pets.
While a scientific approach to this complex problem is recommended, quite often a bit of common sense would suffice. Avoid creating the problem in the first place. Above all else, do not let our sentiments get the better of us.This has not been the case lately.
The social value of animal welfare has been on the rise ever since one champion of its cause, the founder of ACRES, becomes an MP. Following this, bigger breed of dogs are allowed in HDB and laws are passed to mete out more severe punishments on humans for harming animals. The media follows suit with an obvious bias towards animal welfare, unconditionally. As a result, more people are embolden to feed animals they find around them and more are abandoning their pets, all without any sense of guilt. In fact, they feel they can do it from a high moral ground now.
Does closer relationship between humans and animals make a better society? What has close contact between animals and humans brought about? Humans attacked by animals. Diseases. Throughout history, the human species have suffered from epidemic diseases spread through animals such as the plague, malaria, dengue fever, zika fever, avian flu, SARS, AIDS, etc..
While academics and animal welfare groups are recommending the scientific approach, they are also the ones vocal against it. Animals kept and traded as pets should be properly registered, from birth to death and all ownerships in between the two. To do this, electronics tagging would be effective. When the authorities suggest a wearable tag or a chip inserted into the animal for RFID, academics and animal welfare groups protested.
These same groups of people belief that those who provide feedback on problems encountered with animals are only a vocal few who like to complain and therefore the authorities should ignore them. These groups believe the authorities should not cull animals in response to the complaints. They want us to believe that culling is not effective. Really? If the culling rate is higher than the birth rate, it can even bring about extinction of a species! Those who demand more for animal welfares are the vocal few and most of their demands are unreasonable, unscientific and purely sentimental. They are the ones the authorities should ignore.
Beside the wilderness and the parks, there is also another green space which should get more attention, i.e., those green grounds within and around residential areas. They are being destroyed by foreigners playing their game of crickets. Excellent maintenance for these green spaces should be a priority because they are closest to the largest proportion of the population.
Lastly, our officials should be careful before they commit Singapore to any international agreement on animal protection or animal welfare. These are mostly initiated by Western countries. Unlike them, we do not have the luxury of wide land space.

MPs Louis Ng and Daniel Ong were concerned about some dead chickens while we are all concerned about Singapore's economic growth and its future. People should remember what they have done when the next election comes round.



Louis Ng still insists that culling does not solve the problems of strays but sterilisation does.

Sterilisation will bring on more problems. While the animals may not
be able to breed further, they can still become ill, diseased and aged. If
animals continue to be abandoned and sterilised, we will end up with a large
number of ill, diseased and aged strays roaming freely. They will pose a huge
risk to public health.

The root of the problem is irresponsible ownership of animals. Sterilisation cannot uproot it.

[t***@gmail.com]

Post by l***@gmail.com

Post by Russ
The UN says and so was their people who wrote them say so. However, SG
should not listen to UN of every aspect of their explanation. What is the
needs for the Govt is to set it free.

Post by Russ
Those chicken and dogs and cats are people who put them there to run and
loiter and defecate.
When they put them there, the public and AVA deemed, the people abandoned
their pets.
Therefore, the public and AVE should not think these animals were dropped
from the sky, but were placed there, and they became the loitering animals
in the vicinity.
There is good bad, but when they made too much noise or when they defecate
every where, and when they intrude into public spaces, their problems become
an irritation to the people.

Post by w***@gmail.com

On Saturday, 4 February 2017 11:08:05 UTC+8, independent individual

Post by independent individual
It is called respecting animal rights. It is a global movement to
protect and love animals. The Minister and MP are doing the right
thing.

What a stupid human you are! What respect? What animal rights? What do
animals know about respect and rights? Will animals know how to respect
we human and our rights? There is no such thing as a global movement to
protect and love animals. There are just fools around the world who have
nothing better to do.
No wonder your life is in such a mess. Are you hoping to get any free
lunch from those animal welfare NGOs? You will first have to convince
them that you are an animal.

Recently, in Yisun, some stray cats were found dead with evidence of foul
play. Cat lovers straight away suspect its the work of some humans. Upon
investigation, CCTV shows that one stray cat was killed by stray dogs.
When humans kill strays, they are charged in court. Now that stray dogs
have killed a cat, how will animal lovers settle this? Cull the stray
dogs, dogs lovers will cry foul. Leave them alone, cat lovers will cry
foul. The right solution is to cull all strays. Does the authority havethe
strength to face up to the hysterical protests of cats and dogs lovers
when this is carried out?
There are many other problems with strays.
1. Even small dogs held on leashes by the owners have been known to be
attacked by bigger sized stray dogs.
2.Owners are allowing their dogs to urinate in public. Beside trees and
plants, the base of lamp posts and signboards are the dogs' favorite
spots. Many lamp posts and signboards are so corroded that they are in
danger of falling down. They may not be as big or as heavy as a tembusu
tree, but falling lamp posts and signboards can kill too.
We have become a soft society. This brings with it many repercussions.

http://www.todayonline.com/voices/why-was-periodic-culling-not-considered-if-chickens-were-threat
This writer is stupid. Just culling a few fowls and she is crying foul. Yet
she asked why AVA was not doing culling regularly. This was what AVA was
doing before and people like her screamed “murder!”. This is a lesson for
AVA and other public authorities. It does not pay to be weak in the face of
unreasonable protests. The same protesters will come back to accuse you of
not doing your job. AVA should be more steadfast in carrying out culling of
stray animals and those causing public nuisance. These are a threat to
public health. Public health is more important than the lives of strays.
Over the years, AVA has weaken in the face of protest and become lax in
carrying out its duties. As a result, population of strays of all sorts are
exploding. Stray dogs and cats are common sights. Pigeons, mynahs crows,
sparrows are everywhere, in open as well as air-conditioned eating places.
Fowls are being purposely released to public places. Suddenly, cockerels
and hens are appearing in nature parks around the country. NPB should take
note of this. Isn't it an offense for anyone to release animals in public
places? People have been advised against doing it, even as a religious
rite, as during Vesak Day.
Those who profess to love animals think they are on high moral ground
because they are showing love. This is only half the story. The other half
is that they hate humans. They don't care what harm animals can do to their
fellow human beings. They are animal lovers but human haters.
Public authorities should always place the welfare of human above that of
animals and their human lovers.

http://www.todayonline.com/voices/experts-dont-recommend-culling-wild-birds
Another idiotic animal lover.
The UN report cannot possibly deal with every situation that may occur
around the world. It does not know that there would be free roaming chickens
in a congested city, close to the living quarters of humans.
The chicks in this case are not roaming freely in uninhabited area. They are
roaming freely only within a small compound surrounded by human habitats.
Chickens in such a situation cannot be considered wild birds. Culling them
is not culling wild birds.

http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/big-read-animal-encounters-hit-headlines-divide-opens
Wilderness and wildlife within Singapore.
Scientific evidence required before culling.
Do not respond to the complaints of a vocal few.
Science and ecology of wildlife management.
Human encroaching on animals' space.
Let's not forget. Singapore occupies only a tiny fraction of spaceship earth. This tiny island has to serve as the living space for plants, animals and humans. How do these living things share the space and the resources, without causing harm to each other, without reducing the survivability of each other? How close should wilderness be to the general population? Only we humans have the intelligence to plan for these. Human population density on the island is high. Already, we humans have to make use of airspace by building vertically in addition to horizontally. Beside the problem of wildlife, there are also the problems of animals domesticated as pets. Compounding the problem further is the trading of animals as pets.
While a scientific approach to this complex problem is recommended, quite often a bit of common sense would suffice. Avoid creating the problem in the first place. Above all else, do not let our sentiments get the better of us.This has not been the case lately.
The social value of animal welfare has been on the rise ever since one champion of its cause, the founder of ACRES, becomes an MP. Following this, bigger breed of dogs are allowed in HDB and laws are passed to mete out more severe punishments on humans for harming animals. The media follows suit with an obvious bias towards animal welfare, unconditionally. As a result, more people are embolden to feed animals they find around them and more are abandoning their pets, all without any sense of guilt. In fact, they feel they can do it from a high moral ground now.
Does closer relationship between humans and animals make a better society? What has close contact between animals and humans brought about? Humans attacked by animals. Diseases. Throughout history, the human species have suffered from epidemic diseases spread through animals such as the plague, malaria, dengue fever, zika fever, avian flu, SARS, AIDS, etc..
While academics and animal welfare groups are recommending the scientific approach, they are also the ones vocal against it. Animals kept and traded as pets should be properly registered, from birth to death and all ownerships in between the two. To do this, electronics tagging would be effective. When the authorities suggest a wearable tag or a chip inserted into the animal for RFID, academics and animal welfare groups protested.
These same groups of people belief that those who provide feedback on problems encountered with animals are only a vocal few who like to complain and therefore the authorities should ignore them. These groups believe the authorities should not cull animals in response to the complaints. They want us to believe that culling is not effective. Really? If the culling rate is higher than the birth rate, it can even bring about extinction of a species! Those who demand more for animal welfares are the vocal few and most of their demands are unreasonable, unscientific and purely sentimental. They are the ones the authorities should ignore.
Beside the wilderness and the parks, there is also another green space which should get more attention, i.e., those green grounds within and around residential areas. They are being destroyed by foreigners playing their game of crickets. Excellent maintenance for these green spaces should be a priority because they are closest to the largest proportion of the population.
Lastly, our officials should be careful before they commit Singapore to any international agreement on animal protection or animal welfare. These are mostly initiated by Western countries. Unlike them, we do not have the luxury of wide land space.

https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=save+a+shark+eat+a+chinese&noj=1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjAtonx6srSAhWIgrwKHfcFAVo4ChD8BQgIKAE&biw=780&bih=384#imgrc=0RENm1pHrGErrM:

This is a confirmation that animal lovers are human haters. The German shop selling the T-shirts refused to budge despite pleas from the Chinese Embassy in Germany.

What can the Chinese do?
1. Report it to the UN Rapporteur in charge of Racial Discrimination
2. Wear T-shirts which read "Save a human. Eat a German." It rhymes too. How fitting!

[The_Inquirer]

Post by t***@gmail.com
This is a confirmation that animal lovers are human haters. The German shop selling the T-shirts refused to budge despite pleas from the Chinese Embassy in Germany.
What can the Chinese do?
1. Report it to the UN Rapporteur in charge of Racial Discrimination

if they "love" animals so much, why don't they become vegetarian?

Post by t***@gmail.com
2. Wear T-shirts which read "Save a human. Eat a German." It rhymes too. How fitting!

Are Germans very tasty? why eat a German? why? warum*? 火龍?
do German flesh have a lot of VVRROOOOOOM?

[cullinggood]

Post by l***@gmail.com

Post by Russ
The UN says and so was their people who wrote them say so. However, SG
should not listen to UN of every aspect of their explanation. What is the
needs for the Govt is to set it free.

Post by Russ
Those chicken and dogs and cats are people who put them there to run and
loiter and defecate.
When they put them there, the public and AVA deemed, the people abandoned
their pets.
Therefore, the public and AVE should not think these animals were dropped
from the sky, but were placed there, and they became the loitering animals
in the vicinity.
There is good bad, but when they made too much noise or when they defecate
every where, and when they intrude into public spaces, their problems become
an irritation to the people.

Post by w***@gmail.com

On Saturday, 4 February 2017 11:08:05 UTC+8, independent individual

Post by independent individual
It is called respecting animal rights. It is a global movement to
protect and love animals. The Minister and MP are doing the right
thing.

What a stupid human you are! What respect? What animal rights? What do
animals know about respect and rights? Will animals know how to respect
we human and our rights? There is no such thing as a global movement to
protect and love animals. There are just fools around the world who have
nothing better to do.
No wonder your life is in such a mess. Are you hoping to get any free
lunch from those animal welfare NGOs? You will first have to convince
them that you are an animal.

Recently, in Yisun, some stray cats were found dead with evidence of foul
play. Cat lovers straight away suspect its the work of some humans. Upon
investigation, CCTV shows that one stray cat was killed by stray dogs.
When humans kill strays, they are charged in court. Now that stray dogs
have killed a cat, how will animal lovers settle this? Cull the stray
dogs, dogs lovers will cry foul. Leave them alone, cat lovers will cry
foul. The right solution is to cull all strays. Does the authority havethe
strength to face up to the hysterical protests of cats and dogs lovers
when this is carried out?
There are many other problems with strays.
1. Even small dogs held on leashes by the owners have been known to be
attacked by bigger sized stray dogs.
2.Owners are allowing their dogs to urinate in public. Beside trees and
plants, the base of lamp posts and signboards are the dogs' favorite
spots. Many lamp posts and signboards are so corroded that they are in
danger of falling down. They may not be as big or as heavy as a tembusu
tree, but falling lamp posts and signboards can kill too.
We have become a soft society. This brings with it many repercussions.

http://www.todayonline.com/voices/why-was-periodic-culling-not-considered-if-chickens-were-threat
This writer is stupid. Just culling a few fowls and she is crying foul. Yet
she asked why AVA was not doing culling regularly. This was what AVA was
doing before and people like her screamed “murder!”. This is a lesson for
AVA and other public authorities. It does not pay to be weak in the face of
unreasonable protests. The same protesters will come back to accuse you of
not doing your job. AVA should be more steadfast in carrying out culling of
stray animals and those causing public nuisance. These are a threat to
public health. Public health is more important than the lives of strays.
Over the years, AVA has weaken in the face of protest and become lax in
carrying out its duties. As a result, population of strays of all sorts are
exploding. Stray dogs and cats are common sights. Pigeons, mynahs crows,
sparrows are everywhere, in open as well as air-conditioned eating places.
Fowls are being purposely released to public places. Suddenly, cockerels
and hens are appearing in nature parks around the country. NPB should take
note of this. Isn't it an offense for anyone to release animals in public
places? People have been advised against doing it, even as a religious
rite, as during Vesak Day.
Those who profess to love animals think they are on high moral ground
because they are showing love. This is only half the story. The other half
is that they hate humans. They don't care what harm animals can do to their
fellow human beings. They are animal lovers but human haters.
Public authorities should always place the welfare of human above that of
animals and their human lovers.

http://www.todayonline.com/voices/experts-dont-recommend-culling-wild-birds
Another idiotic animal lover.
The UN report cannot possibly deal with every situation that may occur
around the world. It does not know that there would be free roaming chickens
in a congested city, close to the living quarters of humans.
The chicks in this case are not roaming freely in uninhabited area. They are
roaming freely only within a small compound surrounded by human habitats.
Chickens in such a situation cannot be considered wild birds. Culling them
is not culling wild birds.

http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/big-read-animal-encounters-hit-headlines-divide-opens
Wilderness and wildlife within Singapore.
Scientific evidence required before culling.
Do not respond to the complaints of a vocal few.
Science and ecology of wildlife management.
Human encroaching on animals' space.
Let's not forget. Singapore occupies only a tiny fraction of spaceship earth. This tiny island has to serve as the living space for plants, animals and humans. How do these living things share the space and the resources, without causing harm to each other, without reducing the survivability of each other? How close should wilderness be to the general population? Only we humans have the intelligence to plan for these. Human population density on the island is high. Already, we humans have to make use of airspace by building vertically in addition to horizontally. Beside the problem of wildlife, there are also the problems of animals domesticated as pets. Compounding the problem further is the trading of animals as pets.
While a scientific approach to this complex problem is recommended, quite often a bit of common sense would suffice. Avoid creating the problem in the first place. Above all else, do not let our sentiments get the better of us.This has not been the case lately.
The social value of animal welfare has been on the rise ever since one champion of its cause, the founder of ACRES, becomes an MP. Following this, bigger breed of dogs are allowed in HDB and laws are passed to mete out more severe punishments on humans for harming animals. The media follows suit with an obvious bias towards animal welfare, unconditionally. As a result, more people are embolden to feed animals they find around them and more are abandoning their pets, all without any sense of guilt. In fact, they feel they can do it from a high moral ground now.
Does closer relationship between humans and animals make a better society? What has close contact between animals and humans brought about? Humans attacked by animals. Diseases. Throughout history, the human species have suffered from epidemic diseases spread through animals such as the plague, malaria, dengue fever, zika fever, avian flu, SARS, AIDS, etc..
While academics and animal welfare groups are recommending the scientific approach, they are also the ones vocal against it. Animals kept and traded as pets should be properly registered, from birth to death and all ownerships in between the two. To do this, electronics tagging would be effective. When the authorities suggest a wearable tag or a chip inserted into the animal for RFID, academics and animal welfare groups protested.
These same groups of people belief that those who provide feedback on problems encountered with animals are only a vocal few who like to complain and therefore the authorities should ignore them. These groups believe the authorities should not cull animals in response to the complaints. They want us to believe that culling is not effective. Really? If the culling rate is higher than the birth rate, it can even bring about extinction of a species! Those who demand more for animal welfares are the vocal few and most of their demands are unreasonable, unscientific and purely sentimental. They are the ones the authorities should ignore.
Beside the wilderness and the parks, there is also another green space which should get more attention, i.e., those green grounds within and around residential areas. They are being destroyed by foreigners playing their game of crickets. Excellent maintenance for these green spaces should be a priority because they are closest to the largest proportion of the population.
Lastly, our officials should be careful before they commit Singapore to any international agreement on animal protection or animal welfare. These are mostly initiated by Western countries. Unlike them, we do not have the luxury of wide land space.

They still refuse to accept that culling works. Now they bring on the "researchers" and "experts". This raises only more questions than answers,.

http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/culling-healthy-animals-hard-justify-researchers
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/culling-may-cause-more-harm-than-good-study


Mass culling of animals to prevent the spread of disease is a common practice around the world.

But its effectiveness is debatable, says a group of researchers here. Have the local researchers discuss with their peers worldwide before they make their suggestions and conclusions? On further inspection, these are
wrong in basic principle, lacking in common sense and full of contradictions.

Basic principle
"They recognised that culling of animals was “highly controversial” and “extremely difficult to implement effectively within an urbanised area”, due to public objection and the logistics of quickly containing and killing large numbers of animals, noted the study."

Experts and researchers should not be influenced by public objection. Experts and researchers are more qualified, learned and knowledgable. They should not be misled by the public irrational and emotional responses.

Common sense
Culling should work under at least two conditions:
1.When the animals over-populated.
2.When animals become carrier for infectious pathogens causing an epidemic.

You don't need research to tell you this.

"Instead of mass culling, which would unfairly tax healthy animal populations, researchers suggest exploring other options, like medication, good surveillance and open communication to manage zoonotic diseases."

Instead of unfairly taxing healthy animal populations, the suggestion would unfairly tax healthy humans. Precious resources meant for human health would be diverted to animals.

Consider our unique situation. Singapore is a highly urbanised and congested city. No animal should be allowed to roam freely in a city like ours. It is an ecosystem which should have no place for free-roaming animals. Imagine rats running around. Goats and cattles grazing on the neighborhood green ground. The green will turn bald, adding to the baldness created by those irresponsible cricket players. Even the padang will not be spared. Cats and dogs peeing and pooing everywhere. Last but not least, the woes the animals will cause to vehicle traffic. When an animal stray into vehicle traffic, the driver would have to slam the brake hard, risking a bang from the back, or ending up being sued by SPCA for cruelty against animals. It is a stroke of luck that those chickens in Sin Ming did not choose to cross the road!


Contradictions
"An “extreme situation” where culling may have been justified...". So, there are situations when culling is justified.

[w***@gmail.com]

With so many stray dogs around and "experts" voicing against their culling, we ordinary folks will have to know how to protect ourselves against dog attacks. Below is an instructive video from a member of the elite US Navy SEAL.

The trouble for us ordinary folks is that if we counterattack the dog, we may be charged for cruelty towards an animal. Such is the sorry state of our society, one that has gone to the dogs, literally.

[kelantan avian flu]

Post by cullinggood

Post by l***@gmail.com

Post by Russ
The UN says and so was their people who wrote them say so. However, SG
should not listen to UN of every aspect of their explanation. What is the
needs for the Govt is to set it free.

Post by Russ
Those chicken and dogs and cats are people who put them there to run and
loiter and defecate.
When they put them there, the public and AVA deemed, the people abandoned
their pets.
Therefore, the public and AVE should not think these animals were dropped
from the sky, but were placed there, and they became the loitering animals
in the vicinity.
There is good bad, but when they made too much noise or when they defecate
every where, and when they intrude into public spaces, their problems become
an irritation to the people.

Post by w***@gmail.com

On Saturday, 4 February 2017 11:08:05 UTC+8, independent individual

Post by independent individual
It is called respecting animal rights. It is a global movement to
protect and love animals. The Minister and MP are doing the right
thing.

What a stupid human you are! What respect? What animal rights? What do
animals know about respect and rights? Will animals know how to respect
we human and our rights? There is no such thing as a global movement to
protect and love animals. There are just fools around the world who
have
nothing better to do.
No wonder your life is in such a mess. Are you hoping to get any free
lunch from those animal welfare NGOs? You will first have to convince
them that you are an animal.

Recently, in Yisun, some stray cats were found dead with evidence of foul
play. Cat lovers straight away suspect its the work of some humans. Upon
investigation, CCTV shows that one stray cat was killed by stray dogs.
When humans kill strays, they are charged in court. Now that stray dogs
have killed a cat, how will animal lovers settle this? Cull the stray
dogs, dogs lovers will cry foul. Leave them alone, cat lovers will cry
foul. The right solution is to cull all strays. Does the authority havethe
strength to face up to the hysterical protests of cats and dogs lovers
when this is carried out?
There are many other problems with strays.
1. Even small dogs held on leashes by the owners have been known to be
attacked by bigger sized stray dogs.
2.Owners are allowing their dogs to urinate in public. Beside trees and
plants, the base of lamp posts and signboards are the dogs' favorite
spots. Many lamp posts and signboards are so corroded that they are in
danger of falling down. They may not be as big or as heavy as a tembusu
tree, but falling lamp posts and signboards can kill too.
We have become a soft society. This brings with it many repercussions.

http://www.todayonline.com/voices/why-was-periodic-culling-not-considered-if-chickens-were-threat
This writer is stupid. Just culling a few fowls and she is crying foul. Yet
she asked why AVA was not doing culling regularly. This was what AVA was
doing before and people like her screamed “murder!”. This is a lesson for
AVA and other public authorities. It does not pay to be weak in the face of
unreasonable protests. The same protesters will come back to accuse you of
not doing your job. AVA should be more steadfast in carrying out culling of
stray animals and those causing public nuisance. These are a threat to
public health. Public health is more important than the lives of strays.
Over the years, AVA has weaken in the face of protest and become lax in
carrying out its duties. As a result, population of strays of all sorts are
exploding. Stray dogs and cats are common sights. Pigeons, mynahs crows,
sparrows are everywhere, in open as well as air-conditioned eating places.
Fowls are being purposely released to public places. Suddenly, cockerels
and hens are appearing in nature parks around the country. NPB should take
note of this. Isn't it an offense for anyone to release animals in public
places? People have been advised against doing it, even as a religious
rite, as during Vesak Day.
Those who profess to love animals think they are on high moral ground
because they are showing love. This is only half the story. The other half
is that they hate humans. They don't care what harm animals can do to their
fellow human beings. They are animal lovers but human haters.
Public authorities should always place the welfare of human above that of
animals and their human lovers.

http://www.todayonline.com/voices/experts-dont-recommend-culling-wild-birds
Another idiotic animal lover.
The UN report cannot possibly deal with every situation that may occur
around the world. It does not know that there would be free roaming chickens
in a congested city, close to the living quarters of humans.
The chicks in this case are not roaming freely in uninhabited area. They are
roaming freely only within a small compound surrounded by human habitats.
Chickens in such a situation cannot be considered wild birds. Culling them
is not culling wild birds.

http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/big-read-animal-encounters-hit-headlines-divide-opens
Wilderness and wildlife within Singapore.
Scientific evidence required before culling.
Do not respond to the complaints of a vocal few.
Science and ecology of wildlife management.
Human encroaching on animals' space.
Let's not forget. Singapore occupies only a tiny fraction of spaceship earth. This tiny island has to serve as the living space for plants, animals and humans. How do these living things share the space and the resources, without causing harm to each other, without reducing the survivability of each other? How close should wilderness be to the general population? Only we humans have the intelligence to plan for these. Human population density on the island is high. Already, we humans have to make use of airspace by building vertically in addition to horizontally. Beside the problem of wildlife, there are also the problems of animals domesticated as pets. Compounding the problem further is the trading of animals as pets.
While a scientific approach to this complex problem is recommended, quite often a bit of common sense would suffice. Avoid creating the problem in the first place. Above all else, do not let our sentiments get the better of us.This has not been the case lately.
The social value of animal welfare has been on the rise ever since one champion of its cause, the founder of ACRES, becomes an MP. Following this, bigger breed of dogs are allowed in HDB and laws are passed to mete out more severe punishments on humans for harming animals. The media follows suit with an obvious bias towards animal welfare, unconditionally. As a result, more people are embolden to feed animals they find around them and more are abandoning their pets, all without any sense of guilt. In fact, they feel they can do it from a high moral ground now.
Does closer relationship between humans and animals make a better society? What has close contact between animals and humans brought about? Humans attacked by animals. Diseases. Throughout history, the human species have suffered from epidemic diseases spread through animals such as the plague, malaria, dengue fever, zika fever, avian flu, SARS, AIDS, etc..
While academics and animal welfare groups are recommending the scientific approach, they are also the ones vocal against it. Animals kept and traded as pets should be properly registered, from birth to death and all ownerships in between the two. To do this, electronics tagging would be effective. When the authorities suggest a wearable tag or a chip inserted into the animal for RFID, academics and animal welfare groups protested.
These same groups of people belief that those who provide feedback on problems encountered with animals are only a vocal few who like to complain and therefore the authorities should ignore them. These groups believe the authorities should not cull animals in response to the complaints. They want us to believe that culling is not effective. Really? If the culling rate is higher than the birth rate, it can even bring about extinction of a species! Those who demand more for animal welfares are the vocal few and most of their demands are unreasonable, unscientific and purely sentimental. They are the ones the authorities should ignore.
Beside the wilderness and the parks, there is also another green space which should get more attention, i.e., those green grounds within and around residential areas. They are being destroyed by foreigners playing their game of crickets. Excellent maintenance for these green spaces should be a priority because they are closest to the largest proportion of the population.
Lastly, our officials should be careful before they commit Singapore to any international agreement on animal protection or animal welfare. These are mostly initiated by Western countries. Unlike them, we do not have the luxury of wide land space.

They still refuse to accept that culling works. Now they bring on the "researchers" and "experts". This raises only more questions than answers,.
http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/culling-healthy-animals-hard-justify-researchers
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/culling-may-cause-more-harm-than-good-study
Mass culling of animals to prevent the spread of disease is a common practice around the world.
But its effectiveness is debatable, says a group of researchers here. Have the local researchers discuss with their peers worldwide before they make their suggestions and conclusions? On further inspection, these are
wrong in basic principle, lacking in common sense and full of contradictions.
Basic principle
"They recognised that culling of animals was “highly controversial” and “extremely difficult to implement effectively within an urbanised area”, due to public objection and the logistics of quickly containing and killing large numbers of animals, noted the study."
Experts and researchers should not be influenced by public objection. Experts and researchers are more qualified, learned and knowledgable. They should not be misled by the public irrational and emotional responses.
Common sense
1.When the animals over-populated.
2.When animals become carrier for infectious pathogens causing an epidemic.
You don't need research to tell you this.
"Instead of mass culling, which would unfairly tax healthy animal populations, researchers suggest exploring other options, like medication, good surveillance and open communication to manage zoonotic diseases."
Instead of unfairly taxing healthy animal populations, the suggestion would unfairly tax healthy humans. Precious resources meant for human health would be diverted to animals.
Consider our unique situation. Singapore is a highly urbanised and congested city. No animal should be allowed to roam freely in a city like ours. It is an ecosystem which should have no place for free-roaming animals. Imagine rats running around. Goats and cattles grazing on the neighborhood green ground. The green will turn bald, adding to the baldness created by those irresponsible cricket players. Even the padang will not be spared. Cats and dogs peeing and pooing everywhere. Last but not least, the woes the animals will cause to vehicle traffic. When an animal stray into vehicle traffic, the driver would have to slam the brake hard, risking a bang from the back, or ending up being sued by SPCA for cruelty against animals. It is a stroke of luck that those chickens in Sin Ming did not choose to cross the road!
Contradictions
"An “extreme situation” where culling may have been justified...". So, there are situations when culling is justified.

Kelantan is experiencing avian flu epidemic. Do our researchers and experts believe the approaches and methods they recommend for us will work there?

[Dogs are dangerous]

Post by kelantan avian flu

Post by cullinggood

Post by l***@gmail.com

Post by Russ
The UN says and so was their people who wrote them say so. However, SG
should not listen to UN of every aspect of their explanation. What is the
needs for the Govt is to set it free.

Post by Russ
Those chicken and dogs and cats are people who put them there to run and
loiter and defecate.
When they put them there, the public and AVA deemed, the people abandoned
their pets.
Therefore, the public and AVE should not think these animals were dropped
from the sky, but were placed there, and they became the loitering animals
in the vicinity.
There is good bad, but when they made too much noise or when they defecate
every where, and when they intrude into public spaces, their problems
become
an irritation to the people.

Post by w***@gmail.com

On Saturday, 4 February 2017 11:08:05 UTC+8, independent individual

Post by independent individual
It is called respecting animal rights. It is a global movement to
protect and love animals. The Minister and MP are doing the right
thing.

What a stupid human you are! What respect? What animal rights? What do
animals know about respect and rights? Will animals know how to
respect
we human and our rights? There is no such thing as a global movement
to
protect and love animals. There are just fools around the world who
have
nothing better to do.
No wonder your life is in such a mess. Are you hoping to get any free
lunch from those animal welfare NGOs? You will first have to convince
them that you are an animal.

Recently, in Yisun, some stray cats were found dead with evidence of
foul
play. Cat lovers straight away suspect its the work of some humans. Upon
investigation, CCTV shows that one stray cat was killed by stray dogs.
When humans kill strays, they are charged in court. Now that stray dogs
have killed a cat, how will animal lovers settle this? Cull the stray
dogs, dogs lovers will cry foul. Leave them alone, cat lovers will cry
foul. The right solution is to cull all strays. Does the authority
havethe
strength to face up to the hysterical protests of cats and dogs lovers
when this is carried out?
There are many other problems with strays.
1. Even small dogs held on leashes by the owners have been known to be
attacked by bigger sized stray dogs.
2.Owners are allowing their dogs to urinate in public. Beside trees and
plants, the base of lamp posts and signboards are the dogs' favorite
spots. Many lamp posts and signboards are so corroded that they are in
danger of falling down. They may not be as big or as heavy as a tembusu
tree, but falling lamp posts and signboards can kill too.
We have become a soft society. This brings with it many repercussions.

http://www.todayonline.com/voices/why-was-periodic-culling-not-considered-if-chickens-were-threat
This writer is stupid. Just culling a few fowls and she is crying foul. Yet
she asked why AVA was not doing culling regularly. This was what AVA was
doing before and people like her screamed “murder!”. This is a lesson
for
AVA and other public authorities. It does not pay to be weak in the face of
unreasonable protests. The same protesters will come back to accuse you of
not doing your job. AVA should be more steadfast in carrying out culling of
stray animals and those causing public nuisance. These are a threat to
public health. Public health is more important than the lives of strays.
Over the years, AVA has weaken in the face of protest and become lax in
carrying out its duties. As a result, population of strays of all sorts are
exploding. Stray dogs and cats are common sights. Pigeons, mynahs crows,
sparrows are everywhere, in open as well as air-conditioned eating places.
Fowls are being purposely released to public places. Suddenly, cockerels
and hens are appearing in nature parks around the country. NPB should take
note of this. Isn't it an offense for anyone to release animals in public
places? People have been advised against doing it, even as a religious
rite, as during Vesak Day.
Those who profess to love animals think they are on high moral ground
because they are showing love. This is only half the story. The other half
is that they hate humans. They don't care what harm animals can do to their
fellow human beings. They are animal lovers but human haters.
Public authorities should always place the welfare of human above that of
animals and their human lovers.

http://www.todayonline.com/voices/experts-dont-recommend-culling-wild-birds
Another idiotic animal lover.
The UN report cannot possibly deal with every situation that may occur
around the world. It does not know that there would be free roaming chickens
in a congested city, close to the living quarters of humans.
The chicks in this case are not roaming freely in uninhabited area. They are
roaming freely only within a small compound surrounded by human habitats.
Chickens in such a situation cannot be considered wild birds. Culling them
is not culling wild birds.

http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/big-read-animal-encounters-hit-headlines-divide-opens
Wilderness and wildlife within Singapore.
Scientific evidence required before culling.
Do not respond to the complaints of a vocal few.
Science and ecology of wildlife management.
Human encroaching on animals' space.
Let's not forget. Singapore occupies only a tiny fraction of spaceship earth. This tiny island has to serve as the living space for plants, animals and humans. How do these living things share the space and the resources, without causing harm to each other, without reducing the survivability of each other? How close should wilderness be to the general population? Only we humans have the intelligence to plan for these. Human population density on the island is high. Already, we humans have to make use of airspace by building vertically in addition to horizontally. Beside the problem of wildlife, there are also the problems of animals domesticated as pets. Compounding the problem further is the trading of animals as pets.
While a scientific approach to this complex problem is recommended, quite often a bit of common sense would suffice. Avoid creating the problem in the first place. Above all else, do not let our sentiments get the better of us.This has not been the case lately.
The social value of animal welfare has been on the rise ever since one champion of its cause, the founder of ACRES, becomes an MP. Following this, bigger breed of dogs are allowed in HDB and laws are passed to mete out more severe punishments on humans for harming animals. The media follows suit with an obvious bias towards animal welfare, unconditionally. As a result, more people are embolden to feed animals they find around them and more are abandoning their pets, all without any sense of guilt. In fact, they feel they can do it from a high moral ground now.
Does closer relationship between humans and animals make a better society? What has close contact between animals and humans brought about? Humans attacked by animals. Diseases. Throughout history, the human species have suffered from epidemic diseases spread through animals such as the plague, malaria, dengue fever, zika fever, avian flu, SARS, AIDS, etc..
While academics and animal welfare groups are recommending the scientific approach, they are also the ones vocal against it. Animals kept and traded as pets should be properly registered, from birth to death and all ownerships in between the two. To do this, electronics tagging would be effective. When the authorities suggest a wearable tag or a chip inserted into the animal for RFID, academics and animal welfare groups protested.
These same groups of people belief that those who provide feedback on problems encountered with animals are only a vocal few who like to complain and therefore the authorities should ignore them. These groups believe the authorities should not cull animals in response to the complaints. They want us to believe that culling is not effective. Really? If the culling rate is higher than the birth rate, it can even bring about extinction of a species! Those who demand more for animal welfares are the vocal few and most of their demands are unreasonable, unscientific and purely sentimental. They are the ones the authorities should ignore.
Beside the wilderness and the parks, there is also another green space which should get more attention, i.e., those green grounds within and around residential areas. They are being destroyed by foreigners playing their game of crickets. Excellent maintenance for these green spaces should be a priority because they are closest to the largest proportion of the population.
Lastly, our officials should be careful before they commit Singapore to any international agreement on animal protection or animal welfare. These are mostly initiated by Western countries. Unlike them, we do not have the luxury of wide land space.

They still refuse to accept that culling works. Now they bring on the "researchers" and "experts". This raises only more questions than answers,.
http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/culling-healthy-animals-hard-justify-researchers
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/culling-may-cause-more-harm-than-good-study
Mass culling of animals to prevent the spread of disease is a common practice around the world.
But its effectiveness is debatable, says a group of researchers here. Have the local researchers discuss with their peers worldwide before they make their suggestions and conclusions? On further inspection, these are
wrong in basic principle, lacking in common sense and full of contradictions.
Basic principle
"They recognised that culling of animals was “highly controversial” and “extremely difficult to implement effectively within an urbanised area”, due to public objection and the logistics of quickly containing and killing large numbers of animals, noted the study."
Experts and researchers should not be influenced by public objection. Experts and researchers are more qualified, learned and knowledgable. They should not be misled by the public irrational and emotional responses.
Common sense
1.When the animals over-populated.
2.When animals become carrier for infectious pathogens causing an epidemic.
You don't need research to tell you this.
"Instead of mass culling, which would unfairly tax healthy animal populations, researchers suggest exploring other options, like medication, good surveillance and open communication to manage zoonotic diseases."
Instead of unfairly taxing healthy animal populations, the suggestion would unfairly tax healthy humans. Precious resources meant for human health would be diverted to animals.
Consider our unique situation. Singapore is a highly urbanised and congested city. No animal should be allowed to roam freely in a city like ours. It is an ecosystem which should have no place for free-roaming animals. Imagine rats running around. Goats and cattles grazing on the neighborhood green ground. The green will turn bald, adding to the baldness created by those irresponsible cricket players. Even the padang will not be spared. Cats and dogs peeing and pooing everywhere. Last but not least, the woes the animals will cause to vehicle traffic. When an animal stray into vehicle traffic, the driver would have to slam the brake hard, risking a bang from the back, or ending up being sued by SPCA for cruelty against animals. It is a stroke of luck that those chickens in Sin Ming did not choose to cross the road!
Contradictions
"An “extreme situation” where culling may have been justified...". So, there are situations when culling is justified.

Kelantan is experiencing avian flu epidemic. Do our researchers and experts believe the approaches and methods they recommend for us will work there?

http://www.news.com.au/world/stench-in-indian-hospital-leads-to-patient-eaten-by-dogs/news-story/96d03fa0acb74a0e80d8e5c193b17802

Look how dangerous dogs are to humans. This type of reports are seldom picked up by the media here. Instead it often carries stories about how helpful and friendly dogs are to humans. The canines are often referred to as "man's best friends".

If we don't control the stray dogs in our midst, such horrors will happen here too.

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They give them and they send to their zoo in KL.

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tracking device
http://dailylifetech.com/trackr/d/entry/tiny-device-allows-you-to-track-your-car-using-your-smartphone-1211?engsec=60
A GPS tag to the dog should be introduced and should be made mandatory to
the owner or SPCA of th dog to find the location of the position of the dag.

Post by spacer
The options mentioned were known to the NEA and AVA, but there seems there
were foreigners from countries, where their pigeons were treated like nature
animals were allowed to roam freely and defecate on anywhere, advocated to
them to leave them alone.
Can the NEA and AVE explain why did their govt ministers have to bide the
calls to leave them alone?.
These NEA and AVE seem disinterested in addressing them even after the call
is made to them on the pigeons and mynahs defecating from the tree branches
and on ledges, and hawker tables and even on the back frame of the plastic
chair.
As these birds loiter on hawker chairs and tables, in coffee shops and
hawker centers and even food courts, flying and hovering above them, picking
at foods at the next table, unafraid of their close proximity with people
eating at their tables.
Even public or stall holder is not allowed to catch or trap them or even to
poison them is not allowed. If the govt is disinterested to curb them, why
can't they let these owners of coffee shop and food court, and stalls
holders in hawker center to employ their own people of catching and
entrapping these pests.
Since there have been so many unemployed people walking and roaming around
at those eating places, but doing nothing there, why can't they be hired to
do the elimination on these really nuisance and dirty birds.
Why did the Pm did nothing to address the unsolved problem as he should know
they are dangerous to the health of the peoples. it costs a lot of the
people's medisave money to get themselves treated of avian virus flu
transmitted through foods and breathing from them. ..

Post by spacer
Any idea what is your best option on animals?

On Thursday, December 31, 2015 at 11:39:49 AM UTC+8,

Post by f***@gmail.com
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a
GRC, those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything
for their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep
more
than
one dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more
severe. Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider
themselves kings and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone
who does it in any way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lèse
Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the
worsening problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against
animals, however minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep
increasing.
The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess
all over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common
sight in common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes.
You cannot eat in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons
settle
on
leftover food to have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to
clear
the
tables. They also flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on
cooked and uncooked food. Stray cats fight for food dropped on to
floors. Having a meal in an open area is worse. It has become a health
hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human
beings in order to be kind to animals?

The debate will be an on-going one predicated on how an individual
values
a pet.
To a non-pet lover, a dog, cat, or rabbit, is an animal that may be a
pest, or can be ignored or worse/best to be eaten.
However, to a pet lover, the pet is part of the family.
There is a big gulf separating pest, food to family. If one person stands
at the pest side and another person stands at the family end ... war will
soon ensue.

You are muddle-headed. There should be no debate about what is pet and what
is pest. Strays are pests. They should be eliminated by all means.
If only pet lovers have considered pets as part of their families.
They
only
consider the pet to be something for them to toy around. If a pet is a part
of family, it would be looked after till death. In that case, there
would
be
no strays.

1. Bring the population of strays down to zilch.
2. Control the population of wild animals.
3. Stop the trading of animals.

One important option missed.
Have laws which severely punish those found to be irresponsible in their
ownership of pets, e.g., abandoning them.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/rescued-giant-turtle-sent-back-home-to-malaysia/3486660.html

So many people are out of jobs and worried about the next meal. Here we have
one full Minister and one MP and many more behind them packing a turtle back
to Malaysia. Before that they have to negotiate for over year with Malaysian
authorities before the Malaysians are willing to accept the turtle. The
Malaysians must have been thinking what a bunch of idiots these Singaporeans
are. What will happen to the turtle after this? It will be returned to the
wild where upon its survival will be according to the law of the wilderness.
Isn't this stupid? Are they no humans in Singapore which require the care
and the resource given to that turtle?

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http://www.spca.org.sg/services_lost_found_pets.asp

These rules are school-children talks are not meant not set the disciplines
required for owning and managing their dog.

Post by spacer
The options mentioned were known to the NEA and AVA, but there seems there
were foreigners from countries, where their pigeons were treated like nature
animals were allowed to roam freely and defecate on anywhere, advocated to
them to leave them alone.
Can the NEA and AVE explain why did their govt ministers have to bide the
calls to leave them alone?.
These NEA and AVE seem disinterested in addressing them even after the call
is made to them on the pigeons and mynahs defecating from the tree branches
and on ledges, and hawker tables and even on the back frame of the plastic
chair.
As these birds loiter on hawker chairs and tables, in coffee shops and
hawker centers and even food courts, flying and hovering above them, picking
at foods at the next table, unafraid of their close proximity with people
eating at their tables.
Even public or stall holder is not allowed to catch or trap them or even to
poison them is not allowed. If the govt is disinterested to curb them, why
can't they let these owners of coffee shop and food court, and stalls
holders in hawker center to employ their own people of catching and
entrapping these pests.
Since there have been so many unemployed people walking and roaming around
at those eating places, but doing nothing there, why can't they be hired to
do the elimination on these really nuisance and dirty birds.
Why did the Pm did nothing to address the unsolved problem as he should know
they are dangerous to the health of the peoples. it costs a lot of the
people's medisave money to get themselves treated of avian virus flu
transmitted through foods and breathing from them. ..

Post by spacer
Any idea what is your best option on animals?

Post by SuperPET

Post by f***@gmail.com
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a
GRC, those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything
for their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than
one dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more
severe. Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider
themselves kings and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone
who does it in any way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lèse
Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the
worsening problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against
animals, however minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess
all over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common
sight in common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes.
You cannot eat in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons
settle
on
leftover food to have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the
tables. They also flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on
cooked and uncooked food. Stray cats fight for food dropped on to
floors. Having a meal in an open area is worse. It has become a health
hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human
beings in order to be kind to animals?

The debate will be an on-going one predicated on how an individual
values
a pet.
To a non-pet lover, a dog, cat, or rabbit, is an animal that may be a
pest, or can be ignored or worse/best to be eaten.
However, to a pet lover, the pet is part of the family.
There is a big gulf separating pest, food to family. If one person stands
at the pest side and another person stands at the family end ... war will
soon ensue.

You are muddle-headed. There should be no debate about what is pet and what
is pest. Strays are pests. They should be eliminated by all means.
If only pet lovers have considered pets as part of their families. They only
consider the pet to be something for them to toy around. If a pet is a part
of family, it would be looked after till death. In that case, there
would
be
no strays.

1. Bring the population of strays down to zilch.
2. Control the population of wild animals.
3. Stop the trading of animals.

One important option missed.
Have laws which severely punish those found to be irresponsible in their
ownership of pets, e.g., abandoning them.

[w***@gmail.com]

Post by spacer
The options mentioned were known to the NEA and AVA, but there seems there
were foreigners from countries, where their pigeons were treated like nature
animals were allowed to roam freely and defecate on anywhere, advocated to
them to leave them alone.
Can the NEA and AVE explain why did their govt ministers have to bide the
calls to leave them alone?.
These NEA and AVE seem disinterested in addressing them even after the call
is made to them on the pigeons and mynahs defecating from the tree branches
and on ledges, and hawker tables and even on the back frame of the plastic
chair.
As these birds loiter on hawker chairs and tables, in coffee shops and
hawker centers and even food courts, flying and hovering above them, picking
at foods at the next table, unafraid of their close proximity with people
eating at their tables.
Even public or stall holder is not allowed to catch or trap them or even to
poison them is not allowed. If the govt is disinterested to curb them, why
can't they let these owners of coffee shop and food court, and stalls
holders in hawker center to employ their own people of catching and
entrapping these pests.
Since there have been so many unemployed people walking and roaming around
at those eating places, but doing nothing there, why can't they be hired to
do the elimination on these really nuisance and dirty birds.
Why did the Pm did nothing to address the unsolved problem as he should know
they are dangerous to the health of the peoples. it costs a lot of the
people's medisave money to get themselves treated of avian virus flu
transmitted through foods and breathing from them. ..

Post by spacer
Any idea what is your best option on animals?

Post by SuperPET

Post by f***@gmail.com
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a
GRC, those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything
for their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than
one dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more
severe. Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider
themselves kings and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone
who does it in any way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lèse
Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the
worsening problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against
animals, however minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess
all over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common
sight in common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes.
You cannot eat in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on
leftover food to have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the
tables. They also flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on
cooked and uncooked food. Stray cats fight for food dropped on to
floors. Having a meal in an open area is worse. It has become a health
hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human
beings in order to be kind to animals?

The debate will be an on-going one predicated on how an individual
values
a pet.
To a non-pet lover, a dog, cat, or rabbit, is an animal that may be a
pest, or can be ignored or worse/best to be eaten.
However, to a pet lover, the pet is part of the family.
There is a big gulf separating pest, food to family. If one person stands
at the pest side and another person stands at the family end ... war will
soon ensue.

You are muddle-headed. There should be no debate about what is pet and what
is pest. Strays are pests. They should be eliminated by all means.
If only pet lovers have considered pets as part of their families. They only
consider the pet to be something for them to toy around. If a pet is a part
of family, it would be looked after till death. In that case, there would be
no strays.

1. Bring the population of strays down to zilch.
2. Control the population of wild animals.
3. Stop the trading of animals.

http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/sin-ming-chicken-culling-ruffles-feathers

I wonder what happened to those chickens which were culled. Did they end up in the incinerator? That would be a pity because they would make good dishes like curry chicken, kungpow chicken, roast chicken, etc.

Those wild boars which stray into residential areas would make good dishes too.

One way to encourage people to cull strays like chicken and wild boars would be to allow them to have the culled animals for themselves.

[w***@gmail.com]

Post by w***@gmail.com

Post by spacer
The options mentioned were known to the NEA and AVA, but there seems there
were foreigners from countries, where their pigeons were treated like nature
animals were allowed to roam freely and defecate on anywhere, advocated to
them to leave them alone.
Can the NEA and AVE explain why did their govt ministers have to bide the
calls to leave them alone?.
These NEA and AVE seem disinterested in addressing them even after the call
is made to them on the pigeons and mynahs defecating from the tree branches
and on ledges, and hawker tables and even on the back frame of the plastic
chair.
As these birds loiter on hawker chairs and tables, in coffee shops and
hawker centers and even food courts, flying and hovering above them, picking
at foods at the next table, unafraid of their close proximity with people
eating at their tables.
Even public or stall holder is not allowed to catch or trap them or even to
poison them is not allowed. If the govt is disinterested to curb them, why
can't they let these owners of coffee shop and food court, and stalls
holders in hawker center to employ their own people of catching and
entrapping these pests.
Since there have been so many unemployed people walking and roaming around
at those eating places, but doing nothing there, why can't they be hired to
do the elimination on these really nuisance and dirty birds.
Why did the Pm did nothing to address the unsolved problem as he should know
they are dangerous to the health of the peoples. it costs a lot of the
people's medisave money to get themselves treated of avian virus flu
transmitted through foods and breathing from them. ..

Post by spacer
Any idea what is your best option on animals?

Post by SuperPET

Post by f***@gmail.com
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a
GRC, those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything
for their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than
one dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more
severe. Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider
themselves kings and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone
who does it in any way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lèse
Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the
worsening problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against
animals, however minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess
all over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common
sight in common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes.
You cannot eat in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on
leftover food to have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the
tables. They also flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on
cooked and uncooked food. Stray cats fight for food dropped on to
floors. Having a meal in an open area is worse. It has become a health
hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human
beings in order to be kind to animals?

The debate will be an on-going one predicated on how an individual
values
a pet.
To a non-pet lover, a dog, cat, or rabbit, is an animal that may be a
pest, or can be ignored or worse/best to be eaten.
However, to a pet lover, the pet is part of the family.
There is a big gulf separating pest, food to family. If one person stands
at the pest side and another person stands at the family end ... war will
soon ensue.

You are muddle-headed. There should be no debate about what is pet and what
is pest. Strays are pests. They should be eliminated by all means.
If only pet lovers have considered pets as part of their families. They only
consider the pet to be something for them to toy around. If a pet is a part
of family, it would be looked after till death. In that case, there would be
no strays.

1. Bring the population of strays down to zilch.
2. Control the population of wild animals.
3. Stop the trading of animals.

http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/sin-ming-chicken-culling-ruffles-feathers
I wonder what happened to those chickens which were culled. Did they end up in the incinerator? That would be a pity because they would make good dishes like curry chicken, kungpow chicken, roast chicken, etc.
Those wild boars which stray into residential areas would make good dishes too.
One way to encourage people to cull strays like chicken and wild boars would be to allow them to have the culled animals for themselves.

MP Louis Ng, founder of ACRES, has expressed deep sympathy for those chickens. He has been cleaner, garbage collector, etc., for a day, for experience sake. Maybe he should become a roaming chicken for a day and come back to tell us how its like.

[brenda]

Their rare chicken should not be cross-breed by other chickens to prevent
contamination of the heritage breeds.

Post by spacer
The options mentioned were known to the NEA and AVA, but there seems there
were foreigners from countries, where their pigeons were treated like nature
animals were allowed to roam freely and defecate on anywhere, advocated to
them to leave them alone.
Can the NEA and AVE explain why did their govt ministers have to bide the
calls to leave them alone?.
These NEA and AVE seem disinterested in addressing them even after the call
is made to them on the pigeons and mynahs defecating from the tree branches
and on ledges, and hawker tables and even on the back frame of the plastic
chair.
As these birds loiter on hawker chairs and tables, in coffee shops and
hawker centers and even food courts, flying and hovering above them, picking
at foods at the next table, unafraid of their close proximity with people
eating at their tables.
Even public or stall holder is not allowed to catch or trap them or even to
poison them is not allowed. If the govt is disinterested to curb them, why
can't they let these owners of coffee shop and food court, and stalls
holders in hawker center to employ their own people of catching and
entrapping these pests.
Since there have been so many unemployed people walking and roaming around
at those eating places, but doing nothing there, why can't they be hired to
do the elimination on these really nuisance and dirty birds.
Why did the Pm did nothing to address the unsolved problem as he should know
they are dangerous to the health of the peoples. it costs a lot of the
people's medisave money to get themselves treated of avian virus flu
transmitted through foods and breathing from them. ..

Post by spacer
Any idea what is your best option on animals?

Post by SuperPET

Post by f***@gmail.com
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a
GRC, those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything
for their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than
one dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more
severe. Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider
themselves kings and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone
who does it in any way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lèse
Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the
worsening problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against
animals, however minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess
all over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common
sight in common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes.
You cannot eat in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons
settle
on
leftover food to have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the
tables. They also flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on
cooked and uncooked food. Stray cats fight for food dropped on to
floors. Having a meal in an open area is worse. It has become a health
hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human
beings in order to be kind to animals?

The debate will be an on-going one predicated on how an individual
values
a pet.
To a non-pet lover, a dog, cat, or rabbit, is an animal that may be a
pest, or can be ignored or worse/best to be eaten.
However, to a pet lover, the pet is part of the family.
There is a big gulf separating pest, food to family. If one person stands
at the pest side and another person stands at the family end ... war will
soon ensue.

You are muddle-headed. There should be no debate about what is pet and what
is pest. Strays are pests. They should be eliminated by all means.
If only pet lovers have considered pets as part of their families. They only
consider the pet to be something for them to toy around. If a pet is a part
of family, it would be looked after till death. In that case, there
would
be
no strays.

1. Bring the population of strays down to zilch.
2. Control the population of wild animals.
3. Stop the trading of animals.

http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/sin-ming-chicken-culling-ruffles-feathers

I wonder what happened to those chickens which were culled. Did they end up
in the incinerator? That would be a pity because they would make good dishes
like curry chicken, kungpow chicken, roast chicken, etc.

Those wild boars which stray into residential areas would make good dishes
too.

One way to encourage people to cull strays like chicken and wild boars would
be to allow them to have the culled animals for themselves.

[rover]

incinerator.

Post by spacer
The options mentioned were known to the NEA and AVA, but there seems there
were foreigners from countries, where their pigeons were treated like nature
animals were allowed to roam freely and defecate on anywhere, advocated to
them to leave them alone.
Can the NEA and AVE explain why did their govt ministers have to bide the
calls to leave them alone?.
These NEA and AVE seem disinterested in addressing them even after the call
is made to them on the pigeons and mynahs defecating from the tree branches
and on ledges, and hawker tables and even on the back frame of the plastic
chair.
As these birds loiter on hawker chairs and tables, in coffee shops and
hawker centers and even food courts, flying and hovering above them, picking
at foods at the next table, unafraid of their close proximity with people
eating at their tables.
Even public or stall holder is not allowed to catch or trap them or even to
poison them is not allowed. If the govt is disinterested to curb them, why
can't they let these owners of coffee shop and food court, and stalls
holders in hawker center to employ their own people of catching and
entrapping these pests.
Since there have been so many unemployed people walking and roaming around
at those eating places, but doing nothing there, why can't they be hired to
do the elimination on these really nuisance and dirty birds.
Why did the Pm did nothing to address the unsolved problem as he should know
they are dangerous to the health of the peoples. it costs a lot of the
people's medisave money to get themselves treated of avian virus flu
transmitted through foods and breathing from them. ..

Post by spacer
Any idea what is your best option on animals?

Post by SuperPET

Post by f***@gmail.com
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a
GRC, those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything
for their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than
one dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more
severe. Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider
themselves kings and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone
who does it in any way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lèse
Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the
worsening problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against
animals, however minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess
all over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common
sight in common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes.
You cannot eat in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons
settle
on
leftover food to have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the
tables. They also flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on
cooked and uncooked food. Stray cats fight for food dropped on to
floors. Having a meal in an open area is worse. It has become a health
hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human
beings in order to be kind to animals?

The debate will be an on-going one predicated on how an individual
values
a pet.
To a non-pet lover, a dog, cat, or rabbit, is an animal that may be a
pest, or can be ignored or worse/best to be eaten.
However, to a pet lover, the pet is part of the family.
There is a big gulf separating pest, food to family. If one person stands
at the pest side and another person stands at the family end ... war will
soon ensue.

You are muddle-headed. There should be no debate about what is pet and what
is pest. Strays are pests. They should be eliminated by all means.
If only pet lovers have considered pets as part of their families. They only
consider the pet to be something for them to toy around. If a pet is a part
of family, it would be looked after till death. In that case, there
would
be
no strays.

1. Bring the population of strays down to zilch.
2. Control the population of wild animals.
3. Stop the trading of animals.

http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/sin-ming-chicken-culling-ruffles-feathers

I wonder what happened to those chickens which were culled. Did they end up
in the incinerator? That would be a pity because they would make good dishes
like curry chicken, kungpow chicken, roast chicken, etc.

Those wild boars which stray into residential areas would make good dishes
too.

One way to encourage people to cull strays like chicken and wild boars would
be to allow them to have the culled animals for themselves.

[lassie]

Like any country intruded by stray animals like dogs, wild pigs, monkey
looking for foods, there also curb them from intrusions. It is also for
health and hygiene reasons. It is also instituted for the safety of people
from being attacked or bitten by them.

It is also to prevent their virus from jumping into human. Pesky birds like
crows, mynahs, and pigeons must be curbed to reduce their intrusions and
virus transmittals on the food table and chairs and flooring too.

Ledges and railing and walls should be jet-washed to wash regularly and have
to be cleansed up of the defecation they left on it. This is to prevent from
transmittal of virus and to prevent the ugliness of them dirtying on walls
and ledges and railing and food tables and chairs.

Installation of plastic spikes and spring tensional wiring should be install
the prevent birds from loitering on the building edges and ledges, and
eaves. The govt should not give sympathy and empathy to local nature society
of what they wish to follow other countries of free allowance of animals
intrusion into the public spaces for people in SG.

The govt agency should set a standard of measurement for them to curbing of
pesky birds. For example, mynahs, crows, and pigeons should be eliminated by
poison or trapped by net, or crow to be shot down by contractor from AVA.

They should be only each be left - old male crow, one male pigeon, one male
mynah for them to roam within each 10 km radius area of coffee shops, hawker
centers, food courts. This is to allow them to pick up whatever scavenging
of remnants of foods left or found on the grounds and floors at anywhere in
the 10 km radius area.

Therefore, the total population of these pesky bird is one pesky bird of
each type at every 10 km radius of an area. If possible, these 3 birds
should be captured and neutered and GPS tagged before releasing them for
their scavenging jobs.

Post by spacer
Any idea what is your best option on animals?

Post by SuperPET

Post by f***@gmail.com
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a
GRC, those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything
for their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than
one dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more
severe. Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider
themselves kings and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone
who does it in any way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lèse
Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the
worsening problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against
animals, however minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The
number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep
increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess
all over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common
sight in common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes.
You cannot eat in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on
leftover food to have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the
tables. They also flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on
cooked and uncooked food. Stray cats fight for food dropped on to
floors. Having a meal in an open area is worse. It has become a health
hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect
animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans
severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human
beings in order to be kind to animals?

The debate will be an on-going one predicated on how an individual
values
a pet.
To a non-pet lover, a dog, cat, or rabbit, is an animal that may be a
pest, or can be ignored or worse/best to be eaten.
However, to a pet lover, the pet is part of the family.
There is a big gulf separating pest, food to family. If one person stands
at the pest side and another person stands at the family end ... war will
soon ensue.

You are muddle-headed. There should be no debate about what is pet and what
is pest. Strays are pests. They should be eliminated by all means.
If only pet lovers have considered pets as part of their families. They only
consider the pet to be something for them to toy around. If a pet is a part
of family, it would be looked after till death. In that case, there would be
no strays.

The best option:
1. Bring the population of strays down to zilch.
2. Control the population of wild animals.
3. Stop the trading of animals.

[independent individual]

I feel so sorry for the poor animals.

[lassie]

Put foods deep into the forest and jungle.

Foods will attract the pesky birds. They will fly towards there. And they
will wait for their foods everyday. We can make use of a

auto-piloted drone to dispatch and reach to them. When birds are fed there,
they will be attracted to remain there waiting daily for their foods.

By this way, these pesky birds will not come to coffee shop, hawker center,
and food court, at too.



"independent individual" wrote in message news:8599a5ea-9867-4a5f-b9d3-***@googlegroups.com...

I feel so sorry for the poor animals.

[Force in Singapore]

Post by f***@gmail.com
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect animals.

I love my pets. It is good to have laws to protect them.

Many people are evil. they do evil things to fellow human beings!
Why should the law protect such evil people ?

Examples:
The mean old lady who made life unbearable to the maid.
or the maid who cut the throat of her employer. These are all EVIL people..the law MUST not protect hem.

[independent individual]

Post by f***@gmail.com
Since Louis Ng of ACRES became an MP, coming in under the skirt of a GRC, those animals on two legs among us have demanded more of everything for their fellow animals. HDB has to allow its lessees to keep more than one dog. The punishment for cruelty against animals have become more severe. Those animals on two legs or their fellow animals consider themselves kings and queens. No one is allowed to criticize them. Anyone who does it in any way will be considered mad and hunted down for Lèse Majesté.
The media don't highlight the increase in pests and strays and the worsening problems caused by them anymore. Instead, cruelty against animals, however minor, are reported in screaming headlines.
The number of dengue fever and its resultant death keep increasing. The number of stray cats and dogs in the residential neighborhoods keep increasing. The pee and poo from them are creating an increasing mess all over the country. Cockroaches, lizards and even rats are a common sight in common areas of residential estates. They are invading homes. You cannot eat in peace in a hawker center. Mynahs and pigeons settle on leftover food to have a meal when the cleaners are too slow to clear the tables. They also flutter about, depositing all sorts of dirts on cooked and uncooked food. Stray cats fight for food dropped on to floors. Having a meal in an open area is worse. It has become a health hazard.
The laws to protect animals harm human beings more than they can protect animals. Rather than protect animals, they are meant to punish humans severely and unreasonably. Do we have to be cruel to our fellow human beings in order to be kind to animals?

We as humans should not eat animal meat as much as possible.

We should eat animals only when we are truly hungry.

Animals are living beings which we should love.

[w***@gmail.com]

Childish statements.

How much is too much?

How to know when one is truly hungry?

All animals including predators?




https://sg.news.yahoo.com/wild-boar-shot-euthanised-rampaging-posing-danger-police-024913410.html
Why does it take so long? This boar, and several others, have been around the neighborhood for a while now. It was an accident waiting to happen. When it did, it was handled so inefficiently. The animal was first tasered. When this did not stop it from behaving aggressively, a shot was fired, but only to injure and immobilise it. The animal was then passed to ACRES to be euthanised. Seems like it was all done under the direction of ACRES, according to its standard operating procedure. Why can’t the police just shoot to kill, there and then? Because ACRES would have disapproved of it? What happened with the carcass? Did it become meals for those stray dogs caught and kept by ACRES?

ACRES statements on the incident were most stupid.
“the animal probably became defensive after feeling cornered”
“the cramped area with high human traffic stressed the boar”
“public not to approach wild animals and to keep a distance when they are encountered”
Just having a heart to express sympathy and empathy for the animals will not solve the problem. It requires the head to reason out how to prevent such a situation from happening.

The follow-up actions by AVA are equally dumb. Putting up barriers. Putting up signages warning humans. Pls lah, there are already so many signages of all sorts, they make us feel like we are living in a jungle of metal props and boards.

The root of the problem is over-breeding of the animals in their natural habitat. They are running out of space and food there. That is why they are encroaching on human space. The right thing to do is to go into their natural habitat in the forested area nearby to control their population.

[independent individual]

Post by w***@gmail.com
Childish statements.
How much is too much?
How to know when one is truly hungry?
All animals including predators?
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/wild-boar-shot-euthanised-rampaging-posing-danger-police-024913410.html
Why does it take so long? This boar, and several others, have been around the neighborhood for a while now. It was an accident waiting to happen. When it did, it was handled so inefficiently. The animal was first tasered. When this did not stop it from behaving aggressively, a shot was fired, but only to injure and immobilise it. The animal was then passed to ACRES to be euthanised. Seems like it was all done under the direction of ACRES, according to its standard operating procedure. Why can’t the police just shoot to kill, there and then? Because ACRES would have disapproved of it? What happened with the carcass? Did it become meals for those stray dogs caught and kept by ACRES?
ACRES statements on the incident were most stupid.
“the animal probably became defensive after feeling cornered”
“the cramped area with high human traffic stressed the boar”
“public not to approach wild animals and to keep a distance when they are encountered”
Just having a heart to express sympathy and empathy for the animals will not solve the problem. It requires the head to reason out how to prevent such a situation from happening.
The follow-up actions by AVA are equally dumb. Putting up barriers. Putting up signages warning humans. Pls lah, there are already so many signages of all sorts, they make us feel like we are living in a jungle of metal props and boards.
The root of the problem is over-breeding of the animals in their natural habitat. They are running out of space and food there. That is why they are encroaching on human space. The right thing to do is to go into their natural habitat in the forested area nearby to control their population.

I ignore what you are saying.

[dx-ping]

Well said, the root problem is over-breeding.

All these animals and creatures, can multiply very fast, and given the only
one city in SG, they can overwhelm the human population by means of
loitering and attacking anyone when they look for foods.

When overbreeding occurred to them, they will find that food is the source
of demand was found not available to them in the forests.

When they smelled of foods outside of the forested areas, they will follow
the trail of smell and go in groups to reinforce their aggressiveness to
roam for their foods.

They will intrude and infiltrate to homes or hawker center and elsewhere
where foods are available. It is natural of natural instinct of animals to
react to chasing and attack when they feel in dangers.





wrote in message news:2be8d0b6-7d57-4cda-bc5a-***@googlegroups.com...

Childish statements.

How much is too much?

How to know when one is truly hungry?

All animals including predators?




https://sg.news.yahoo.com/wild-boar-shot-euthanised-rampaging-posing-danger-police-024913410.html
Why does it take so long? This boar, and several others, have been around
the neighborhood for a while now. It was an accident waiting to happen. When
it did, it was handled so inefficiently. The animal was first tasered. When
this did not stop it from behaving aggressively, a shot was fired, but only
to injure and immobilise it. The animal was then passed to ACRES to be
euthanised. Seems like it was all done under the direction of ACRES,
according to its standard operating procedure. Why can’t the police just
shoot to kill, there and then? Because ACRES would have disapproved of it?
What happened with the carcass? Did it become meals for those stray dogs
caught and kept by ACRES?

ACRES statements on the incident were most stupid.
“the animal probably became defensive after feeling cornered”
“the cramped area with high human traffic stressed the boar”
“public not to approach wild animals and to keep a distance when they are
encountered”
Just having a heart to express sympathy and empathy for the animals will
not solve the problem. It requires the head to reason out how to prevent
such a situation from happening.

The follow-up actions by AVA are equally dumb. Putting up barriers. Putting
up signages warning humans. Pls lah, there are already so many signages of
all sorts, they make us feel like we are living in a jungle of metal props
and boards.

The root of the problem is over-breeding of the animals in their natural
habitat. They are running out of space and food there. That is why they are
encroaching on human space. The right thing to do is to go into their
natural habitat in the forested area nearby to control their population.


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Post by dx-ping
Well said, the root problem is over-breeding.
All these animals and creatures, can multiply very fast, and given the only
one city in SG, they can overwhelm the human population by means of
loitering and attacking anyone when they look for foods.
When overbreeding occurred to them, they will find that food is the source
of demand was found not available to them in the forests.
When they smelled of foods outside of the forested areas, they will follow
the trail of smell and go in groups to reinforce their aggressiveness to
roam for their foods.
They will intrude and infiltrate to homes or hawker center and elsewhere
where foods are available. It is natural of natural instinct of animals to
react to chasing and attack when they feel in dangers.
Childish statements.
How much is too much?
How to know when one is truly hungry?
All animals including predators?
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/wild-boar-shot-euthanised-rampaging-posing-danger-police-024913410.html
Why does it take so long? This boar, and several others, have been around
the neighborhood for a while now. It was an accident waiting to happen. When
it did, it was handled so inefficiently. The animal was first tasered. When
this did not stop it from behaving aggressively, a shot was fired, but only
to injure and immobilise it. The animal was then passed to ACRES to be
euthanised. Seems like it was all done under the direction of ACRES,
according to its standard operating procedure. Why can’t the police just
shoot to kill, there and then? Because ACRES would have disapproved of it?
What happened with the carcass? Did it become meals for those stray dogs
caught and kept by ACRES?
ACRES statements on the incident were most stupid.
“the animal probably became defensive after feeling cornered”
“the cramped area with high human traffic stressed the boar”
“public not to approach wild animals and to keep a distance when they are encountered”
Just having a heart to express sympathy and empathy for the animals will
not solve the problem. It requires the head to reason out how to prevent
such a situation from happening.
The follow-up actions by AVA are equally dumb. Putting up barriers. Putting
up signages warning humans. Pls lah, there are already so many signages of
all sorts, they make us feel like we are living in a jungle of metal props
and boards.
The root of the problem is over-breeding of the animals in their natural
habitat. They are running out of space and food there. That is why they are
encroaching on human space. The right thing to do is to go into their
natural habitat in the forested area nearby to control their population.
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http://stomp.straitstimes.com/singapore-seen/dog-dies-from-poisoned-bread-intended-for-pigeon-culling-exercise

http://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore/dog-could-have-died-eating-toxic-bread-town-council-investigating


A dog died after eating a piece of bread it found along a road. Owner cried foul and animal-lovers went berserk.

Let's put it in proper perspective. Was the dog killed by eating the bread?
The owner is displaying the arrogance of a Westerner in this part of the world, taking the authority to task without first determining the truth. How can a substance which is intended to only tranquilize a pigeon be strong enough to kill a dog? The owner of the dog will have to prove that its the bread that killed her dog. This is to be done at her own expense, not taxpayers’.

The owner of the dog has some explanations to give too. What had she fed her dog with before taking it out for that walk? Had she taken proper care of her dog during the walk? Was the dog on leash when it found the bread? Why did she not stop the dog from eating the bread? Had she allowed her dog to pee and poo in public during the walk?

The pigeon culling exercise should not stop, whether or not the dog was poison from the bread. Those animal-loving fools are showing sympathies and empathies for those pigeons and the dog while questioning and criticizing the authority harshly on social media.

The Town Council, together with the pest control company it employed, deserve our praise. They are carrying out their duty in pest control. There are too many pests around us. They are creating public nuisances and endangering public safety and health. Pigeons form one of the more serious type because they breed fast. Their population must be reduced, by any means.

The job of pest control is made unnecessarily difficult by those animal lovers. They freely feed pests and thwart the authority's plan to cull pests. If the authority has alerted the public to the presence of the food used to attract and tranquilize the pigeons, those animal lovers would have removed them.

It would be a great disservice to the public if the authority reduces or stops the culling because of this incident. Do not flinch, keep going, because the problem is growing.

[m***@gmail.com]

Post by w***@gmail.com

Post by dx-ping
Well said, the root problem is over-breeding.
All these animals and creatures, can multiply very fast, and given the only
one city in SG, they can overwhelm the human population by means of
loitering and attacking anyone when they look for foods.
When overbreeding occurred to them, they will find that food is the source
of demand was found not available to them in the forests.
When they smelled of foods outside of the forested areas, they will follow
the trail of smell and go in groups to reinforce their aggressiveness to
roam for their foods.
They will intrude and infiltrate to homes or hawker center and elsewhere
where foods are available. It is natural of natural instinct of animals to
react to chasing and attack when they feel in dangers.
Childish statements.
How much is too much?
How to know when one is truly hungry?
All animals including predators?
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/wild-boar-shot-euthanised-rampaging-posing-danger-police-024913410.html
Why does it take so long? This boar, and several others, have been around
the neighborhood for a while now. It was an accident waiting to happen. When
it did, it was handled so inefficiently. The animal was first tasered. When
this did not stop it from behaving aggressively, a shot was fired, but only
to injure and immobilise it. The animal was then passed to ACRES to be
euthanised. Seems like it was all done under the direction of ACRES,
according to its standard operating procedure. Why can’t the police just
shoot to kill, there and then? Because ACRES would have disapproved of it?
What happened with the carcass? Did it become meals for those stray dogs
caught and kept by ACRES?
ACRES statements on the incident were most stupid.
“the animal probably became defensive after feeling cornered”
“the cramped area with high human traffic stressed the boar”
“public not to approach wild animals and to keep a distance when they are
encountered”
Just having a heart to express sympathy and empathy for the animals will
not solve the problem. It requires the head to reason out how to prevent
such a situation from happening.
The follow-up actions by AVA are equally dumb. Putting up barriers. Putting
up signages warning humans. Pls lah, there are already so many signages of
all sorts, they make us feel like we are living in a jungle of metal props
and boards.
The root of the problem is over-breeding of the animals in their natural
habitat. They are running out of space and food there. That is why they are
encroaching on human space. The right thing to do is to go into their
natural habitat in the forested area nearby to control their population.
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http://stomp.straitstimes.com/singapore-seen/dog-dies-from-poisoned-bread-intended-for-pigeon-culling-exercise
http://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore/dog-could-have-died-eating-toxic-bread-town-council-investigating
A dog died after eating a piece of bread it found along a road. Owner cried foul and animal-lovers went berserk.
Let's put it in proper perspective. Was the dog killed by eating the bread?
The owner is displaying the arrogance of a Westerner in this part of the world, taking the authority to task without first determining the truth. How can a substance which is intended to only tranquilize a pigeon be strong enough to kill a dog? The owner of the dog will have to prove that its the bread that killed her dog. This is to be done at her own expense, not taxpayers’.
The owner of the dog has some explanations to give too. What had she fed her dog with before taking it out for that walk? Had she taken proper care of her dog during the walk? Was the dog on leash when it found the bread? Why did she not stop the dog from eating the bread? Had she allowed her dog to pee and poo in public during the walk?
The pigeon culling exercise should not stop, whether or not the dog was poison from the bread. Those animal-loving fools are showing sympathies and empathies for those pigeons and the dog while questioning and criticizing the authority harshly on social media.
The Town Council, together with the pest control company it employed, deserve our praise. They are carrying out their duty in pest control. There are too many pests around us. They are creating public nuisances and endangering public safety and health. Pigeons form one of the more serious type because they breed fast. Their population must be reduced, by any means.
The job of pest control is made unnecessarily difficult by those animal lovers. They freely feed pests and thwart the authority's plan to cull pests. If the authority has alerted the public to the presence of the food used to attract and tranquilize the pigeons, those animal lovers would have removed them.
It would be a great disservice to the public if the authority reduces or stops the culling because of this incident. Do not flinch, keep going, because the problem is growing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/28/world/asia/india-orai-donkeys-jail.html

At least those donkeys have an owner interested to reclaim them. If the authority here were to jail all those stray dogs and cats here, one would come forward to claim them. So, the only way to deal with them is to cull them.

[l***@gmail.com]

Post by w***@gmail.com

Post by dx-ping
Well said, the root problem is over-breeding.
All these animals and creatures, can multiply very fast, and given the only
one city in SG, they can overwhelm the human population by means of
loitering and attacking anyone when they look for foods.
When overbreeding occurred to them, they will find that food is the source
of demand was found not available to them in the forests.
When they smelled of foods outside of the forested areas, they will follow
the trail of smell and go in groups to reinforce their aggressiveness to
roam for their foods.
They will intrude and infiltrate to homes or hawker center and elsewhere
where foods are available. It is natural of natural instinct of animals to
react to chasing and attack when they feel in dangers.
Childish statements.
How much is too much?
How to know when one is truly hungry?
All animals including predators?
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/wild-boar-shot-euthanised-rampaging-posing-danger-police-024913410.html
Why does it take so long? This boar, and several others, have been around
the neighborhood for a while now. It was an accident waiting to happen. When
it did, it was handled so inefficiently. The animal was first tasered. When
this did not stop it from behaving aggressively, a shot was fired, but only
to injure and immobilise it. The animal was then passed to ACRES to be
euthanised. Seems like it was all done under the direction of ACRES,
according to its standard operating procedure. Why can’t the police just
shoot to kill, there and then? Because ACRES would have disapproved of it?
What happened with the carcass? Did it become meals for those stray dogs
caught and kept by ACRES?
ACRES statements on the incident were most stupid.
“the animal probably became defensive after feeling cornered”
“the cramped area with high human traffic stressed the boar”
“public not to approach wild animals and to keep a distance when they are
encountered”
Just having a heart to express sympathy and empathy for the animals will
not solve the problem. It requires the head to reason out how to prevent
such a situation from happening.
The follow-up actions by AVA are equally dumb. Putting up barriers. Putting
up signages warning humans. Pls lah, there are already so many signages of
all sorts, they make us feel like we are living in a jungle of metal props
and boards.
The root of the problem is over-breeding of the animals in their natural
habitat. They are running out of space and food there. That is why they are
encroaching on human space. The right thing to do is to go into their
natural habitat in the forested area nearby to control their population.
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http://stomp.straitstimes.com/singapore-seen/dog-dies-from-poisoned-bread-intended-for-pigeon-culling-exercise
http://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore/dog-could-have-died-eating-toxic-bread-town-council-investigating
A dog died after eating a piece of bread it found along a road. Owner cried foul and animal-lovers went berserk.
Let's put it in proper perspective. Was the dog killed by eating the bread?
The owner is displaying the arrogance of a Westerner in this part of the world, taking the authority to task without first determining the truth. How can a substance which is intended to only tranquilize a pigeon be strong enough to kill a dog? The owner of the dog will have to prove that its the bread that killed her dog. This is to be done at her own expense, not taxpayers’.
The owner of the dog has some explanations to give too. What had she fed her dog with before taking it out for that walk? Had she taken proper care of her dog during the walk? Was the dog on leash when it found the bread? Why did she not stop the dog from eating the bread? Had she allowed her dog to pee and poo in public during the walk?
The pigeon culling exercise should not stop, whether or not the dog was poison from the bread. Those animal-loving fools are showing sympathies and empathies for those pigeons and the dog while questioning and criticizing the authority harshly on social media.
The Town Council, together with the pest control company it employed, deserve our praise. They are carrying out their duty in pest control. There are too many pests around us. They are creating public nuisances and endangering public safety and health. Pigeons form one of the more serious type because they breed fast. Their population must be reduced, by any means.
The job of pest control is made unnecessarily difficult by those animal lovers. They freely feed pests and thwart the authority's plan to cull pests. If the authority has alerted the public to the presence of the food used to attract and tranquilize the pigeons, those animal lovers would have removed them.
It would be a great disservice to the public if the authority reduces or stops the culling because of this incident. Do not flinch, keep going, because the problem is growing.

Are dogs human best friends?

https://www.indiatimes.com/news/india/stray-dog-drags-away-body-of-newborn-in-up-hospital-authorities-refuse-any-responsibility-334408.html

Before this, there was another case.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/stray-dog-feeds-on-infant-s-corpse-at-odisha-hospital-people-remain-spectator/story-YAEHpfAEr3CbCjgn9XMMzM.html

We never get to read news like those above. Instead we have TV serials that show animals to be lovable, adorable and helpful.

If we don’t curb the number of stray dogs in our midst, the reported incidents will happen here too.

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Well said, the root problem is over-breeding.
All these animals and creatures, can multiply very fast, and given the only
one city in SG, they can overwhelm the human population by means of
loitering and attacking anyone when they look for foods.
When overbreeding occurred to them, they will find that food is the source
of demand was found not available to them in the forests.
When they smelled of foods outside of the forested areas, they will follow
the trail of smell and go in groups to reinforce their aggressiveness to
roam for their foods.
They will intrude and infiltrate to homes or hawker center and elsewhere
where foods are available. It is natural of natural instinct of animals to
react to chasing and attack when they feel in dangers.
Childish statements.
How much is too much?
How to know when one is truly hungry?
All animals including predators?
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/wild-boar-shot-euthanised-rampaging-posing-danger-police-024913410.html
Why does it take so long? This boar, and several others, have been around
the neighborhood for a while now. It was an accident waiting to happen. When
it did, it was handled so inefficiently. The animal was first tasered. When
this did not stop it from behaving aggressively, a shot was fired, but only
to injure and immobilise it. The animal was then passed to ACRES to be
euthanised. Seems like it was all done under the direction of ACRES,
according to its standard operating procedure. Why can’t the police just
shoot to kill, there and then? Because ACRES would have disapproved of it?
What happened with the carcass? Did it become meals for those stray dogs
caught and kept by ACRES?
ACRES statements on the incident were most stupid.
“the animal probably became defensive after feeling cornered”
“the cramped area with high human traffic stressed the boar”
“public not to approach wild animals and to keep a distance when they are
encountered”
Just having a heart to express sympathy and empathy for the animals will
not solve the problem. It requires the head to reason out how to prevent
such a situation from happening.
The follow-up actions by AVA are equally dumb. Putting up barriers. Putting
up signages warning humans. Pls lah, there are already so many signages of
all sorts, they make us feel like we are living in a jungle of metal props
and boards.
The root of the problem is over-breeding of the animals in their natural
habitat. They are running out of space and food there. That is why they are
encroaching on human space. The right thing to do is to go into their
natural habitat in the forested area nearby to control their population.
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http://stomp.straitstimes.com/singapore-seen/dog-dies-from-poisoned-bread-intended-for-pigeon-culling-exercise
http://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore/dog-could-have-died-eating-toxic-bread-town-council-investigating
A dog died after eating a piece of bread it found along a road. Owner cried foul and animal-lovers went berserk.
Let's put it in proper perspective. Was the dog killed by eating the bread?
The owner is displaying the arrogance of a Westerner in this part of the world, taking the authority to task without first determining the truth. How can a substance which is intended to only tranquilize a pigeon be strong enough to kill a dog? The owner of the dog will have to prove that its the bread that killed her dog. This is to be done at her own expense, not taxpayers’.
The owner of the dog has some explanations to give too. What had she fed her dog with before taking it out for that walk? Had she taken proper care of her dog during the walk? Was the dog on leash when it found the bread? Why did she not stop the dog from eating the bread? Had she allowed her dog to pee and poo in public during the walk?
The pigeon culling exercise should not stop, whether or not the dog was poison from the bread. Those animal-loving fools are showing sympathies and empathies for those pigeons and the dog while questioning and criticizing the authority harshly on social media.
The Town Council, together with the pest control company it employed, deserve our praise. They are carrying out their duty in pest control. There are too many pests around us. They are creating public nuisances and endangering public safety and health. Pigeons form one of the more serious type because they breed fast. Their population must be reduced, by any means.
The job of pest control is made unnecessarily difficult by those animal lovers. They freely feed pests and thwart the authority's plan to cull pests. If the authority has alerted the public to the presence of the food used to attract and tranquilize the pigeons, those animal lovers would have removed them.
It would be a great disservice to the public if the authority reduces or stops the culling because of this incident. Do not flinch, keep going, because the problem is growing.

Are dogs human best friends?
https://www.indiatimes.com/news/india/stray-dog-drags-away-body-of-newborn-in-up-hospital-authorities-refuse-any-responsibility-334408.html
Before this, there was another case.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/stray-dog-feeds-on-infant-s-corpse-at-odisha-hospital-people-remain-spectator/story-YAEHpfAEr3CbCjgn9XMMzM.html
We never get to read news like those above. Instead we have TV serials that show animals to be lovable, adorable and helpful.
If we don’t curb the number of stray dogs in our midst, the reported incidents will happen here too.

So, you think those kittens look cute? Before you touch them, read this.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/british-backpacker-fighting-for-life-in-melbourne-hospital-after-being-scratched-by-a-kitten/news-story/8bd1097b4fa1fcf877cb93715b7e8fcd

We never get to read this type of news here.
On TV, its only stuff about cute animals. Its indoctrination of the masses under the guidance of those animal-loving NGO's.

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Well said, the root problem is over-breeding.
All these animals and creatures, can multiply very fast, and given the only
one city in SG, they can overwhelm the human population by means of
loitering and attacking anyone when they look for foods.
When overbreeding occurred to them, they will find that food is the source
of demand was found not available to them in the forests.
When they smelled of foods outside of the forested areas, they will follow
the trail of smell and go in groups to reinforce their aggressiveness to
roam for their foods.
They will intrude and infiltrate to homes or hawker center and elsewhere
where foods are available. It is natural of natural instinct of animals to
react to chasing and attack when they feel in dangers.
Childish statements.
How much is too much?
How to know when one is truly hungry?
All animals including predators?
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/wild-boar-shot-euthanised-rampaging-posing-danger-police-024913410.html
Why does it take so long? This boar, and several others, have been around
the neighborhood for a while now. It was an accident waiting to happen. When
it did, it was handled so inefficiently. The animal was first tasered. When
this did not stop it from behaving aggressively, a shot was fired, but only
to injure and immobilise it. The animal was then passed to ACRES to be
euthanised. Seems like it was all done under the direction of ACRES,
according to its standard operating procedure. Why can’t the police just
shoot to kill, there and then? Because ACRES would have disapproved of it?
What happened with the carcass? Did it become meals for those stray dogs
caught and kept by ACRES?
ACRES statements on the incident were most stupid.
“the animal probably became defensive after feeling cornered”
“the cramped area with high human traffic stressed the boar”
“public not to approach wild animals and to keep a distance when they are
encountered”
Just having a heart to express sympathy and empathy for the animals will
not solve the problem. It requires the head to reason out how to prevent
such a situation from happening.
The follow-up actions by AVA are equally dumb. Putting up barriers. Putting
up signages warning humans. Pls lah, there are already so many signages of
all sorts, they make us feel like we are living in a jungle of metal props
and boards.
The root of the problem is over-breeding of the animals in their natural
habitat. They are running out of space and food there. That is why they are
encroaching on human space. The right thing to do is to go into their
natural habitat in the forested area nearby to control their population.
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http://stomp.straitstimes.com/singapore-seen/dog-dies-from-poisoned-bread-intended-for-pigeon-culling-exercise
http://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore/dog-could-have-died-eating-toxic-bread-town-council-investigating
A dog died after eating a piece of bread it found along a road. Owner cried foul and animal-lovers went berserk.
Let's put it in proper perspective. Was the dog killed by eating the bread?
The owner is displaying the arrogance of a Westerner in this part of the world, taking the authority to task without first determining the truth. How can a substance which is intended to only tranquilize a pigeon be strong enough to kill a dog? The owner of the dog will have to prove that its the bread that killed her dog. This is to be done at her own expense, not taxpayers’.
The owner of the dog has some explanations to give too. What had she fed her dog with before taking it out for that walk? Had she taken proper care of her dog during the walk? Was the dog on leash when it found the bread? Why did she not stop the dog from eating the bread? Had she allowed her dog to pee and poo in public during the walk?
The pigeon culling exercise should not stop, whether or not the dog was poison from the bread. Those animal-loving fools are showing sympathies and empathies for those pigeons and the dog while questioning and criticizing the authority harshly on social media.
The Town Council, together with the pest control company it employed, deserve our praise. They are carrying out their duty in pest control. There are too many pests around us. They are creating public nuisances and endangering public safety and health. Pigeons form one of the more serious type because they breed fast. Their population must be reduced, by any means.
The job of pest control is made unnecessarily difficult by those animal lovers. They freely feed pests and thwart the authority's plan to cull pests. If the authority has alerted the public to the presence of the food used to attract and tranquilize the pigeons, those animal lovers would have removed them.
It would be a great disservice to the public if the authority reduces or stops the culling because of this incident. Do not flinch, keep going, because the problem is growing.

Are dogs human best friends?
https://www.indiatimes.com/news/india/stray-dog-drags-away-body-of-newborn-in-up-hospital-authorities-refuse-any-responsibility-334408.html
Before this, there was another case.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/stray-dog-feeds-on-infant-s-corpse-at-odisha-hospital-people-remain-spectator/story-YAEHpfAEr3CbCjgn9XMMzM.html
We never get to read news like those above. Instead we have TV serials that show animals to be lovable, adorable and helpful.
If we don’t curb the number of stray dogs in our midst, the reported incidents will happen here too.

So, you think those kittens look cute? Before you touch them, read this.
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/british-backpacker-fighting-for-life-in-melbourne-hospital-after-being-scratched-by-a-kitten/news-story/8bd1097b4fa1fcf877cb93715b7e8fcd
We never get to read this type of news here.
On TV, its only stuff about cute animals. Its indoctrination of the masses under the guidance of those animal-loving NGO's.

Mediacorp shows videos of cute animals, playing with babies and kids. This is biased. Media should also carry news about the viciousness of animals, like those below.


fox2now.com/2018/03/12/cape-girardeau-child-dies-after-being-attacked-by-dog/

https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/03/05/06/14/dog-attack-neighbours-came-to-aid-of-girl-critically-injured-in-mauling-at-melbourne-home

https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/03/07/06/03/mayfield-dog-attack-leaves-boy-3-in-hospital

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/03/09/elmont-dog-attacks-baby/

http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/twoyearold-girl-victim-of-latest-dog-attack-reports/news-story/be88f82ece3df1ef018ec1a35cf1595c

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/07/hiker-gored-to-death-by-cow-in-austrian-alps

https://www.hindustantimes.com/jaipur/stray-cow-kills-elderly-woman-in-kota-4th-such-death-this-year/story-BRDzWlBR3DGLBYtFvtCaqI.html

https://www.cato.org/blog/more-americans-die-animal-attacks-terrorist-attacks

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5425639/Girl-12-eaten-pack-stray-dogs-Ukraine.html

https://tw.appledaily.com/new/realtime/20180309/1311197/

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Post by dx-ping
Well said, the root problem is over-breeding.
All these animals and creatures, can multiply very fast, and given the only
one city in SG, they can overwhelm the human population by means of
loitering and attacking anyone when they look for foods.
When overbreeding occurred to them, they will find that food is the source
of demand was found not available to them in the forests.
When they smelled of foods outside of the forested areas, they will follow
the trail of smell and go in groups to reinforce their aggressiveness to
roam for their foods.
They will intrude and infiltrate to homes or hawker center and elsewhere
where foods are available. It is natural of natural instinct of animals to
react to chasing and attack when they feel in dangers.
Childish statements.
How much is too much?
How to know when one is truly hungry?
All animals including predators?
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/wild-boar-shot-euthanised-rampaging-posing-danger-police-024913410.html
Why does it take so long? This boar, and several others, have been around
the neighborhood for a while now. It was an accident waiting to happen. When
it did, it was handled so inefficiently. The animal was first tasered. When
this did not stop it from behaving aggressively, a shot was fired, but only
to injure and immobilise it. The animal was then passed to ACRES to be
euthanised. Seems like it was all done under the direction of ACRES,
according to its standard operating procedure. Why can’t the police just
shoot to kill, there and then? Because ACRES would have disapproved of it?
What happened with the carcass? Did it become meals for those stray dogs
caught and kept by ACRES?
ACRES statements on the incident were most stupid.
“the animal probably became defensive after feeling cornered”
“the cramped area with high human traffic stressed the boar”
“public not to approach wild animals and to keep a distance when they are
encountered”
Just having a heart to express sympathy and empathy for the animals will
not solve the problem. It requires the head to reason out how to prevent
such a situation from happening.
The follow-up actions by AVA are equally dumb. Putting up barriers. Putting
up signages warning humans. Pls lah, there are already so many signages of
all sorts, they make us feel like we are living in a jungle of metal props
and boards.
The root of the problem is over-breeding of the animals in their natural
habitat. They are running out of space and food there. That is why they are
encroaching on human space. The right thing to do is to go into their
natural habitat in the forested area nearby to control their population.
---
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http://stomp.straitstimes.com/singapore-seen/dog-dies-from-poisoned-bread-intended-for-pigeon-culling-exercise
http://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore/dog-could-have-died-eating-toxic-bread-town-council-investigating
A dog died after eating a piece of bread it found along a road. Owner cried foul and animal-lovers went berserk.
Let's put it in proper perspective. Was the dog killed by eating the bread?
The owner is displaying the arrogance of a Westerner in this part of the world, taking the authority to task without first determining the truth. How can a substance which is intended to only tranquilize a pigeon be strong enough to kill a dog? The owner of the dog will have to prove that its the bread that killed her dog. This is to be done at her own expense, not taxpayers’.
The owner of the dog has some explanations to give too. What had she fed her dog with before taking it out for that walk? Had she taken proper care of her dog during the walk? Was the dog on leash when it found the bread? Why did she not stop the dog from eating the bread? Had she allowed her dog to pee and poo in public during the walk?
The pigeon culling exercise should not stop, whether or not the dog was poison from the bread. Those animal-loving fools are showing sympathies and empathies for those pigeons and the dog while questioning and criticizing the authority harshly on social media.
The Town Council, together with the pest control company it employed, deserve our praise. They are carrying out their duty in pest control. There are too many pests around us. They are creating public nuisances and endangering public safety and health. Pigeons form one of the more serious type because they breed fast. Their population must be reduced, by any means.
The job of pest control is made unnecessarily difficult by those animal lovers. They freely feed pests and thwart the authority's plan to cull pests. If the authority has alerted the public to the presence of the food used to attract and tranquilize the pigeons, those animal lovers would have removed them.
It would be a great disservice to the public if the authority reduces or stops the culling because of this incident. Do not flinch, keep going, because the problem is growing.

Are dogs human best friends?
https://www.indiatimes.com/news/india/stray-dog-drags-away-body-of-newborn-in-up-hospital-authorities-refuse-any-responsibility-334408.html
Before this, there was another case.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/stray-dog-feeds-on-infant-s-corpse-at-odisha-hospital-people-remain-spectator/story-YAEHpfAEr3CbCjgn9XMMzM.html
We never get to read news like those above. Instead we have TV serials that show animals to be lovable, adorable and helpful.
If we don’t curb the number of stray dogs in our midst, the reported incidents will happen here too.

So, you think those kittens look cute? Before you touch them, read this.
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/british-backpacker-fighting-for-life-in-melbourne-hospital-after-being-scratched-by-a-kitten/news-story/8bd1097b4fa1fcf877cb93715b7e8fcd
We never get to read this type of news here.
On TV, its only stuff about cute animals. Its indoctrination of the masses under the guidance of those animal-loving NGO's.

Mediacorp shows videos of cute animals, playing with babies and kids. This is biased. Media should also carry news about the viciousness of animals, like those below.
fox2now.com/2018/03/12/cape-girardeau-child-dies-after-being-attacked-by-dog/
https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/03/05/06/14/dog-attack-neighbours-came-to-aid-of-girl-critically-injured-in-mauling-at-melbourne-home
https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/03/07/06/03/mayfield-dog-attack-leaves-boy-3-in-hospital
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/03/09/elmont-dog-attacks-baby/
http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/twoyearold-girl-victim-of-latest-dog-attack-reports/news-story/be88f82ece3df1ef018ec1a35cf1595c
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/07/hiker-gored-to-death-by-cow-in-austrian-alps
https://www.hindustantimes.com/jaipur/stray-cow-kills-elderly-woman-in-kota-4th-such-death-this-year/story-BRDzWlBR3DGLBYtFvtCaqI.html
https://www.cato.org/blog/more-americans-die-animal-attacks-terrorist-attacks
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5425639/Girl-12-eaten-pack-stray-dogs-Ukraine.html
https://tw.appledaily.com/new/realtime/20180309/1311197/

Stray dogs moving to new home become national news. On TV, helpers, including celebrities, are given wide media exposure for helping out. The mainstream media is out to promote senseless animal-loving in SG. News about how vicious dogs can be to humans are often suppressed.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/07/packs-feral-dogs-kill-six-children-northern-india-sitapur

myfox8.com/2018/03/20/7-children-injured-after-dog-attack-inside-charlotte-elementary-school/
"A teacher was eventually able to confine the animal and contacted the animal’s owner from the information on the dog’s collar. "
Learn something here. This should be done to dogs in SG too. When it we be able to trace a dog to its owner?

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/trichy/shortage-of-skilled-labour-hits-stray-dog-sterilisation-drive/articleshow/62421316.cms

www.takepart.com/article/2014/03/31/sorry-cat-lovers-trap-neuter-release-flat-out-doesnt-work

www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/rabies-claims-seventh-victim-in-sarawak